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Help please finding Isaac NAPPER - SA
« on: Thursday 02 July 09 14:18 UTC (UK) »

I am looking for help with any way of finding information on grandfather and his family, Isaac Napper b about 1872 in South Australia. He came to UK,date unknown, occupation gamekeeper, married Mary Prosser in Hereford. Family then lived in Wales. Family not with him when he departed London 4dec1913 on the Marathon bound for Melbourne. He was buried in Fawkner Memorial Park, Melbourne on 26 mar 1915.
All that we know of his family is that his father was also Isaac Napper, occupation labourer. I have found an entry on the SA Land Selectors for Isaac Napper buying land in Gowler on 27 Apr 1871 but nothing else so don't know if he is connected.
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Re: Help please finding Isaac NAPPER - SA
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 02 July 09 21:21 UTC (UK) »

Hi,

There is a limited entry from the BISA

NAPPER Isaac born about 1844 Somerset England arrived 1865 NORMAN MORRISON occupation farm Lab
Married 1 Jan 1867. SA.

The Norman Morrison arrived in Port Adelaide 21 Aug 1865

also

NAPPER George born about 1847 Somerset England arrived 1865 NORMAN MORRISON occupation Farm Labourer

Listed in the 1875 SA Police Gazette

11 Nov 1875

Notice is hereby gived that the undermentioned person has taken the oath as constable in the district herein after named under act no 10 1858

Alma Plains - William Zennor, Isaac Napper, and Peter Barry

Cheers Kris  Smiley

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Re: Help please finding Isaac NAPPER - SA
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 02 July 09 21:30 UTC (UK) »

Isaac Agda NAPPER was born on the 23 Aug 1872 at Alma Plains Dist Gil 113 46 parents Isaac NAPPER and Eliza Jane NOBLE

NAPPER Isaac 23 status not recorded father William NAPPER = NOBLE Eliza 18 status not recorded father George NOBLE 1 Jan 1867 Res of Isaac Napper Tam OShanter Belt Dist Ade 70 21

Siblings

Charlotte NAPPER 24 May 1867 Hindmarsh Dist Ade 33 782
Ernest William NAPPER 4 Apr 1870 Templers Dist Bar 81 400
Edith Lurzia NAPPER 8 Jan 1875 Alma Dist Gil 146 186

No further mention of them in SA (marriages/deaths) - perhaps they moved to another state or the whole family went back to UK

Cheers Kris  Smiley
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Re: Help please finding Isaac NAPPER - SA
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 02 July 09 22:54 UTC (UK) »

http://proarchives.imagineering.com.au/index_search.asp?searchid=54

You  will  see that Isaac E Napper  left a will, unfortunately  it is not digitalised

on  the 1914 Electoral Roll

living at 5 Wellington Street, Richmond. Labourer Isaac Edgar Napper
no other Napper at this address.
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SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
 EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
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Re: Help please finding Isaac NAPPER - SA
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 02 July 09 23:10 UTC (UK) »

Paling around  with  marriages in  the  Uk
I  found Charlotte Sarah Napper marrying in Somerset in 1889, unfortuanelty  several women and one man on  the page.

However searching  the 1891 for Charlotte born in Aouth Australia
find
Charlote S Norman  born Adelaide 1867 in Somerset.

SO  wondering  if  the family all went back  to Somerset from  whence Isaac senior came from.

Jenn
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I live in Townsville, Australia researching
TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,,
SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
 EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
In Australia
Hennessy, Hair, Bayley, Townsend,
Shoebridge, Edsall, Adamson,

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Re: Help please finding Isaac NAPPER - SA
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 02 July 09 23:38 UTC (UK) »

I see Edith L NAPPER is in St James Westminster Middlesex in 1891 listed as niece to Maria C NAPPER a widow from Germany. Also present another neice Elizabeth E A NAPPER 10 b Compton Dundon - same parish Isaac is in and was born in - earlier census give his parents as William (a cordwainer)  and Charlotte.

Cheers Kris  Smiley
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Re: Help please finding Isaac NAPPER - SA
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 02 July 09 23:43 UTC (UK) »

Kris
I noted  that Isaac  born Compton Dundon in 1844c  was on  the 1851 and 1861 census with his parents Willaim and Charlotte  and  a  big gap  and back in 1901 but with a diffrent wife Sarah  to  the  Eliza he married in South Australia.

I  have searched other states in Australia but with no luck  so far.

Jenn
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TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,,
SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
 EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
In Australia
Hennessy, Hair, Bayley, Townsend,
Shoebridge, Edsall, Adamson,

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Re: Help please finding Isaac NAPPER - SA
« Reply #7 on: Friday 03 July 09 00:03 UTC (UK) »

Yes I found him in 1901 also Jenn,

Still looking so far with no luck for 1881 and 1891. Second wife is from Compton Dundon. They married in 1887 in Wells district.  Undecided

Cheers Kris  Smiley
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Re: Help please finding Isaac NAPPER - SA
« Reply #8 on: Friday 03 July 09 00:16 UTC (UK) »

On FreeBMD is
Isaac NAPPER b Sep qr 1843, reg at Langport, Vol 10, p 406.  Compton Dundon is in the Langton district.

(Also, just tidying up for my own purposes really the death date give on PROV's will site is 25 Mar 1915.)

Judith
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Re: Help please finding Isaac NAPPER - SA
« Reply #9 on: Friday 03 July 09 00:43 UTC (UK) »

Aha - They are in Canada in 1881 and 1891. They certainly get about.  Grin

1881 census

C_13250. Page 74. 314
Nottawasaga
Ontario Canada


NAPPER Isaac Head 36 b England Church of England Farmer
NAPPER Eliza Wife 29 b Australia
NAPPER Charlotte 14 b Australia
NAPPER Earnest 10 b Australia
NAPPER Isaac 8 b Australia
NAPPER Eadith 6 b Australia
NAPPER Alice 4 b England
NAPPER Emily A b in last 12 months (Oct)

Sorry I missed Ernest

NAPPER Ernest William 4 Apr 1870 Templers Dist Bar 81 400

1891 census

T-6381. 11
York West
Ontario


NAPPER Isaac 48 b England Church of England Brick maker labourer
NAPPER Sarah 51 b England
NAPPER Alice 13 b England
NAPPER Jane 8 b Ontario
NAPPER Albert 8 b England (He is Albert WITHERS in 1901)

Listed as passengers aboard the POLYNESIAN from Quebec to Liverpool arriving 18 Aug 1891

NAPPER Isaac Head 50
NAPPER Mrs Wife 45
NAPPER Alice Child 11 1/2
NAPPER Aubert Child 8
NAPPER Jane Child 5

Cheers Kris  Smiley

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Re: Help please finding Isaac NAPPER - SA
« Reply #10 on: Friday 03 July 09 00:48 UTC (UK) »

Ah  ha no wonder I  couldn't find him in Australia Roll Eyes

Kris you  didn't miss Ernest you  had him  in  your posting replly no 2 for births etc.

There is a posibble marriage for him in Somerset in 1914 as well.  Oh  can't find on my  notes where I  wrote it down  will recheck for details.

edit by Jenn
marriage for an Ernest W Napper to Ellen Wright in 1914 at  Langport  Somerset
   


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When you search for ancestors, you find great friends!

I live in Townsville, Australia researching
TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,,
SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
 EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
In Australia
Hennessy, Hair, Bayley, Townsend,
Shoebridge, Edsall, Adamson,

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Re: Help please finding Isaac NAPPER - SA
« Reply #11 on: Friday 03 July 09 00:56 UTC (UK) »

Derr - Course I did Jenn   Roll Eyes

Didn't look back - must be the Earnest and Eadith that threw me  Grin

They certainly did a bit of travelling back and forth

There is an I NAPPER farmer and Miss N NAPPER traveilling from Canada to Liverpool arriving 26 Nov 1905 aboard the TUNISIAN no ages provided.

Kris  Smiley
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Re: Help please finding Isaac NAPPER - SA
« Reply #12 on: Friday 03 July 09 01:06 UTC (UK) »

Eliza died in Ontario

Eliza Jane NAPPER died the 2 May 1883 She was aged 34 a farmers wife born in Australia. cause of death Metritis et Fabris Remittens (3 weeks)
certified by Dr Wylie.
Informant Isaac NAPPER - Nottawasaga - husband of the deceased - Church of England.
dated 5 May 1883. Registrar - Angus Bell

Cheers Kris  Smiley
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Re: Help please finding Isaac NAPPER - SA
« Reply #13 on: Friday 03 July 09 01:30 UTC (UK) »

Here is another passenger list entry

Isaac NAPPER 44 Mechanic
Mrs NAPPER 48
Alice NAPPER 11
Albert NAPPER 7
Jane NAPPER 4

Departed Avonmouth 15 Mar 1890 destination Maine USA aboard the TEXAN

Cheers Kris  Smiley
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Re: Help please finding Isaac NAPPER - SA
« Reply #14 on: Friday 03 July 09 02:56 UTC (UK) »

and a birth

NAPPER Eliza Jane was born 12 Apr 1883 parents Isaac NAPPER and Eliza Jane NOBLE Father farmer of Nottawasaga
Dr Wylie
Registered 5 May 1883 - Registrar Angus Bell  Cry

Kris  Smiley
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