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Jshand38
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Shands???
« on: Thursday 02 July 09 18:50 UTC (UK) »

Hi, I am doing a family tree of my family+relatives. I gone back as far as 1700? with the shands in Beath?, Fife, with an Andrew Shand and so have most people who are also doing family trees. One person says, Andrew shand had brother, called Thomas shand, born about 1736???

The only Thomas shands I come across are from the ABERDEEN area from about 1736. Anyone have any idea's? Also does anyone know when/what year the shands came to Fife?

yours, Jonathan Shand.
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Re: Shands???
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 15 July 09 13:49 UTC (UK) »

Beath is a small parish in the district of Dunfermline, Fife, within it are the villages of Cowdenbeath,(not to be confused with the town near Glasgow), Kelty & Oakfield.  Also found in older documents spelt 'Baith'.

You mean you've never heard of Sir Jimmy Shand ?  Famous musician b East Weymss Fife 1908  died 23 Dec 2000.  Lived in Auchtermuchty Fife.

This from Trades and Crafts Minute Book Burntisland 1685-1835:

SHAND, JOHN yr: app to Robert Kirk, Sep 1726.

IGI Shows: Beath


Andrew Shand m Margaret Anderson 11 Dec 1730  Batch ref     M114104
Thomas Shand m Margaret Ross  30 Nov 1733
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BRISTOL & GLS:
DENNING -  RIDDLE-DENNING. & Glam TANNER-DENNING, MORGAN, THOMAS, RICE-ADAMS, RITCHINGS.
DEV:18thC  RICE, Mary, ADAMS, CLARKE,STENTAFORD. MICHLEMORE.
HANTS: RICE-ADAMS, RICE-DEVEREUX-ADAMS (S'hampton), PIPER.  (Crawley)
All GLS: TOVEY, GLS/GLAM/BRKS. WESLEY/WASLEY, GLS/GLAM.  MARSHALL Alstone, PEARSON, GREEN, JAYNES  COOMBES, TOMBS.
LANCS: DUNN, Manc. BROWN Salford
CHS: BROMILEY
SOM:  BALCH.
WLS:  MORRIS, MGY/DEN, WMS, GRIFFITHS,
WTS/Lon: SKUSE
BRKS/Lon: CHURCH, WAKEFIELD
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Re: Shands???
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 15 July 09 14:00 UTC (UK) »

The Statistical Accounts for Scotland  1791-1845 might be of interest:

These pages for Beath:

http://stat-acc-scot.edina.ac.uk//sas/sas.asp//?naecache=2&parishsearchflag=parish&searchtype=search&action=public&parishsearchterm=Beath&submit=Search&session-id=0d247e0e6e3df8e702f76b48f268a9f5#search
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BRISTOL & GLS:
DENNING -  RIDDLE-DENNING. & Glam TANNER-DENNING, MORGAN, THOMAS, RICE-ADAMS, RITCHINGS.
DEV:18thC  RICE, Mary, ADAMS, CLARKE,STENTAFORD. MICHLEMORE.
HANTS: RICE-ADAMS, RICE-DEVEREUX-ADAMS (S'hampton), PIPER.  (Crawley)
All GLS: TOVEY, GLS/GLAM/BRKS. WESLEY/WASLEY, GLS/GLAM.  MARSHALL Alstone, PEARSON, GREEN, JAYNES  COOMBES, TOMBS.
LANCS: DUNN, Manc. BROWN Salford
CHS: BROMILEY
SOM:  BALCH.
WLS:  MORRIS, MGY/DEN, WMS, GRIFFITHS,
WTS/Lon: SKUSE
BRKS/Lon: CHURCH, WAKEFIELD
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Re: Shands???
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 15 July 09 20:53 UTC (UK) »

I know all this, It's not what I asked, Well I am Jimmy shand's 3rd cousin Twice removed and he's in my family tree and that a fact, so yes I have and I know my way around Scotland too,OK?

Beath is a small parish in the district of Dunfermline, Fife, within it are the villages of Cowdenbeath,(not to be confused with the town near Glasgow), Kelty & Oakfield.  Also found in older documents spelt 'Baith'.

You mean you've never heard of Sir Jimmy Shand ?  Famous musician b East Weymss Fife 1908  died 23 Dec 2000.  Lived in Auchtermuchty Fife.

This from Trades and Crafts Minute Book Burntisland 1685-1835:

SHAND, JOHN yr: app to Robert Kirk, Sep 1726.

IGI Shows: Beath


Andrew Shand m Margaret Anderson 11 Dec 1730  Batch ref     M114104
Thomas Shand m Margaret Ross  30 Nov 1733
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Re: Shands???
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 16 July 09 10:16 UTC (UK) »

Then why did you query Beath? as if you didn't understand where it was?

As to whether there are connections between Shands in Fife and Aberdeenshire - it's entirely possible,  I know of two Fife families who had 17thC connections with Aberdeenshire  (Christie & Leslie).

As to trying to find Thomas Shand- do you know his occupation? Has the person who said Andrew had a brother been able to say where they found that information?
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BRISTOL & GLS:
DENNING -  RIDDLE-DENNING. & Glam TANNER-DENNING, MORGAN, THOMAS, RICE-ADAMS, RITCHINGS.
DEV:18thC  RICE, Mary, ADAMS, CLARKE,STENTAFORD. MICHLEMORE.
HANTS: RICE-ADAMS, RICE-DEVEREUX-ADAMS (S'hampton), PIPER.  (Crawley)
All GLS: TOVEY, GLS/GLAM/BRKS. WESLEY/WASLEY, GLS/GLAM.  MARSHALL Alstone, PEARSON, GREEN, JAYNES  COOMBES, TOMBS.
LANCS: DUNN, Manc. BROWN Salford
CHS: BROMILEY
SOM:  BALCH.
WLS:  MORRIS, MGY/DEN, WMS, GRIFFITHS,
WTS/Lon: SKUSE
BRKS/Lon: CHURCH, WAKEFIELD
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