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dblun
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Lost STEEL
« on: Thursday 02 July 09 21:58 UTC (UK) »

Alice Steel  was born 1909 in Aberdeen. Does anyone have info on this Steel family? Parents? Siblings etc ? Her middle name? Any help would be great Embarrassed
This is one confusing lady Tongue
Dorothy

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Re: Lost STEEL
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 02 July 09 22:12 UTC (UK) »

Hi

Have you checked her birth on Scotlands People?  Her parents names will be shown on her birth cert

www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
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Re: Lost STEEL
« Reply #2 on: Friday 03 July 09 05:22 UTC (UK) »

Hi Carole
1909 births not yet available to view and i don't want to order unless I'm fairly sure its her !
Thanks
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Re: Lost STEEL
« Reply #3 on: Friday 03 July 09 08:17 UTC (UK) »

Hello Dorothy

Without turning Alice into International Woman of Mystery, what is it that makes her confusing? - or is it you that's confused?   Smiley  Without giving too much info away what facts do you have for her.

I see that in 1909 there are no Alice Steels born in Scotland, but 1

1909 STEELE ALICE LOWNIE F OLD ABERDEEN ABERDEEN/ABERDEEN

Any chance that this is your lady?

Scotlandwide 1899 to 1910 - there are 7 Alice Steels born.  Non in Aberdeen/shire.  Have pm'd you the list.  Used that timespan in case Alice may have been economical with the truth regarding age.  Have sometimes found this with ancestors of both genders, especially when it comes to marriage.  However - have never come across anyone lopping off more than 10 years   :O)

I'd therefore go and look for a marriage between a male Steele and a female Lownie.  Off to do that now.
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McDonald originating in Aberlour.  Smith (Aberdeenshire/Aberdeen), Esslemont, Christie, Robbie; Scott (in Aberdour).   Crosbie and Willison.  Borders:  Lawrie, Thomson, Paxton, Peacock, Amos, Robson, Turner, Bertram, Watson
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Re: Lost STEEL
« Reply #4 on: Friday 03 July 09 08:21 UTC (UK) »

Back off Scotlands People

Scotlandwide between 1880 and 1915 - only one marriage to a couple with that name

1906 STEELE ANDREW LOWNIE ANNIE COWIESON WOODSIDE ABERDEEN CITY/ABERDEEN 168/03 0019

(Andrew Steele marries Annie Cowieson Lownie in the Woodside district of Aberdeen).

If you can confirm that the above are 'your' family I can get the marriage entry for you then I'm sure others will help take the family back.

Regards,   Steve    Smiley

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McDonald originating in Aberlour.  Smith (Aberdeenshire/Aberdeen), Esslemont, Christie, Robbie; Scott (in Aberdour).   Crosbie and Willison.  Borders:  Lawrie, Thomson, Paxton, Peacock, Amos, Robson, Turner, Bertram, Watson
dblun
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Re: Lost STEEL
« Reply #5 on: Friday 03 July 09 19:53 UTC (UK) »


Hi and thanks Piglet01

Alice Steel was my Aunt ..She revealed absolutely NOTHING of her life to anyone in the family including her daughter .. other than she was born in Scotland in 1909 and came to Canada as a very very young child. The name Lownie does appear as a middle name on a marriage record to my uncle.. no other info about her!

No parents names , no siblings ever mentioned .. We have spent much time investigating the 'Bernardo /Carruthers Children' but to no avail.

She destroyed any and all info. She once said she came from Glasgow .. And that was the only slip in her years ( well over 80) of silence.

You have given me me a whole opening with this birth and marriage.
Thanks so much !
Dorothy
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Re: Lost STEEL
« Reply #6 on: Friday 03 July 09 19:56 UTC (UK) »

Sorry Steve ... missed my thanks to you!
Dorothy
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Re: Lost STEEL
« Reply #7 on: Friday 03 July 09 20:01 UTC (UK) »

Seems a bit of a misunderstanding there Dorothy as you did say thanks - I'm Piglet01/Steve  :O)

Just about to say - pleased that we've got the right person.  As you're aware, you'll have to wait a year to download your aunts birth entry.  You can of course downoad the marriage entry to take the family back.  Also you'll be able to easily search for her mothers death as you'll have 2 names to use as a filter.

Unfortunately the next census records won't be available till 2011, which might show older or younger siblings.

I live in Aberdeen - so if I can be of any help?

Regards,   Steve
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Re: Lost STEEL
« Reply #8 on: Friday 03 July 09 20:16 UTC (UK) »

I knew that I had goofed as soon as I hit the send button... see what happens when excitement hits .
Oh yes , another question..I think I saw the name Crosbie on your list of family names..from Where? My Crosbie's are from Dumfriesshire.
Dorothy

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Re: Lost STEEL
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 04 July 09 11:19 UTC (UK) »

Our Crosbies are from the Galashiels area and also Earlston.

If you pm me your e-mail address - I'll send the cert.

So that lurkers can pitch in I'm posting details of the marriage.

13th July 1906 at 13 Gladstone Place, Woodside "according to the forms of the Established Church of Scotland).

Andrew Steele, bachelor, (stone cutter), living at 67 Don Street, Old Aberden, son of Samuel Steele (Tailor Journeman)- deceased, and Marjory Steele (M.S. Laing)

married Annie Cowieson Lownie, spinster (domestic servant|), 13 Gladstone Place, Woodside, dau. of Alexander Lownie (Paper Mill Worker), and Jessie (? either Richardson or Nicholson) - slightly difficult to read.

Witnesses were 2 members of Annies family.

Regards,   Steve

Update:  Gladstone Place is on 'Google Street' - I'd imagine Don Street is the same.  Type in the address. then use the person icon at the left side of the screen - and hey presto you're in the street looking at the house.....

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?utm_campaign=en_GB&utm_medium=lp&utm_source=en_GB-lp-emea-gb-gns-svn

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McDonald originating in Aberlour.  Smith (Aberdeenshire/Aberdeen), Esslemont, Christie, Robbie; Scott (in Aberdour).   Crosbie and Willison.  Borders:  Lawrie, Thomson, Paxton, Peacock, Amos, Robson, Turner, Bertram, Watson
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Re: Lost STEEL
« Reply #10 on: Monday 06 July 09 02:37 UTC (UK) »

Thanks Steve
Did the map bit ..great.
You did send me the marriage record!For which I thank you
Have a great few days holiday !
Dorothy
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Re: Lost STEEL
« Reply #11 on: Monday 06 July 09 20:56 UTC (UK) »

Hello Dorothy.  Mmmh....   looks as thought that Alice Lownie Steele born Aberdeen 1909 is not yours.....

Have been doing a bit of searching.  Looks as though she married someone in Aberdeen in 1930 and died i Aberdeen in 1972, aged 62.

Shall pm you the details.

Regards,   Steve    Sad
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McDonald originating in Aberlour.  Smith (Aberdeenshire/Aberdeen), Esslemont, Christie, Robbie; Scott (in Aberdour).   Crosbie and Willison.  Borders:  Lawrie, Thomson, Paxton, Peacock, Amos, Robson, Turner, Bertram, Watson
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Re: Lost STEEL
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 11 July 09 02:34 UTC (UK) »

I have an Alice Steele,  a sister of my greatgrandmother, born after the 1891 census (still working on the exact date).  Her parents were William Steele and Margaret Brown.  The family lived in Woodside.  Alice married a Bowles.  Any connections?
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Re: Lost STEEL
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 11 July 09 05:10 UTC (UK) »

Hi All
My Alice came to Canada and married a Grierson
Thanks for all the help
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