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william hammond
« on: Friday 03 July 09 05:24 UTC (UK) »

Hi Chris,
I have been reading the great work you have done on Lewes records and wonder if you can help me. The information I have at present is:
William Hammond, stonemason of Lewes. m. Ann Hood at, I think, Lewes St Michaels in 1747(?). I know of 3 children - William(1757?) Elizabeth (1762?) and Ann (1764?). Elizabeth married John Hargraves and died soon after the birth of her first child. She was buried in her father's vault 19 Mar 1785 which I think would be in St Johns sub castro.  This would suggest that William had died by that date. I do not know anything about William or Anne's family so I would be grateful for any information on the Hammond/Hood families as they present a 'brick wall' for me right now. 
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Re: william hammond
« Reply #1 on: Friday 03 July 09 07:39 UTC (UK) »

Julia

From the Sussex Marriage Index

Lewes St. Michael, East Sussex, 18 Jan 1747/8
William HAMMOND, Rodmell
Ann HOOD, otp

Archdeaconry of Lewes Marriage Licence, 21 Jul 1783
Elizabeth HAMMOND, sp 21 St.John S.C. Lewes
John HARGRAVES, nach All Saints Lewes
Extra Info: SRS 25  ss: Isaac HARGRAVES stonemason Soutover; John FISHER yeo Lewes

Lewes St. John sub Castro, East Sussex, 22 Jul 1783
Elizabeth HAMMOND, otp
John HARGRAVES, All Saints
Witness wit: Thos.SHARPE; John WIMBLE

Looks like sister Ann married one of the witnesses

Archdeaconry of Lewes Marriage Licence, 9 Jul 1786
John WIMBLE, bach.age22+ St.John under the Castle Lewes
Ann HAMMOND, sp.age 21+ otsp.

Lewes St. John sub Castro, East Sussex, 10 Jul 1786
John WIMBLE
Ann HAMMOND, botp.(lic)
Witness wit;Steph HOLLANDMargold VERRALL.

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FAULCONER, MANNINGTON, RICHARDSON, TICEHURST, BROOK, ELPHICK, All Sussex
UDY, CLEMENCE/CLEMENTS,WHITE, COITE, COBELDICK, Cornwall
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Re: william hammond
« Reply #2 on: Friday 03 July 09 07:56 UTC (UK) »

The IGI has a couple of daughters to a William and Ann HAMMOND baptised at Rodmell, which could tie in with William being from there when he married.

Mary bapt 7 Jan 1748
Ann bapt 29 Sep 1750

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Re: william hammond
« Reply #3 on: Friday 03 July 09 08:10 UTC (UK) »

Hi Julia

Sorry, I appear to have changed my name to 'Eyesee' or 'Ian C' - must have been a painless operation because I did not feel a thing  Grin

Spotted these baptism in the St John Sub Castro registers

1757   Sep   23   Hammond   William   m      William   Ann      at the Tanyard   born 1 Sep
1760   Apr   1   Hammond   Ann   f      William         of the tann yard   
1762   Mar   4   Hammond   Elizabeth   f      William   Ann         
1764   Oct   17   Hammond   Ann   f      William   Ann      
1812   Jun   14   Hammond   Henry Allwork   m      Henry   Ruth      
1817   Feb   2   Hammond   Sarah   f      William   Lucy   OTP   Shoemaker
1818   Apr   26   Hammond   Ruth   f      Henry   Ruth   OTP   Brazier
1820   Feb   13   Hammond   George Allwork   m      Henry   Ruth   OTP   Braizer
1827   Jul   15   Hammond   Sergeant Terry   m      Sergeant   Mary   OTP   Blacksmith
1835   May   31   Hammond   Jane   f   d   John   Elizabeth   OTP   Fell Monger
1837   Feb   5   Hammond   Martha   f   d   John   Elizabeth   OTP   Labourer


Think some of them could be yours

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Re: william hammond
« Reply #4 on: Friday 03 July 09 08:13 UTC (UK) »

Hi again

Looking in the burial register for the period 1751 - 1799 we find the following

1792   October   26   Hammond   Martha   f   Widow of William         601
1784   January   30   Hammond   Thomas   m   Thomas of St Thomas Cliffe, in a steen grave.         
1780   December   28   Hammond   William   m   William, Tanner. Churchwarden when the parish church of St Johns was repaired and beautified.         601


That leads us to a gravestone No 601 which I will now look up

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Re: william hammond
« Reply #5 on: Friday 03 July 09 08:49 UTC (UK) »

Hi again

Did Ann Hammond die after 1764 as we have a second marriage of William to Martha in 1767 as follows:

Location: Newick, East Sussex,  Date: 27 Dec 1767:
Groom: William HAMMOND, widower of Lewes
Bride: Martha PICKERING, spinster of this parish
Married by Licence.

Monument No 601 in the St John Sub Castro Churchyard seems to refer to the above couple

No 601-

Headstone:
  To the memory of/ Mrs Martha Hammond/ who died Oct the .. 1792/ aged 64 years/ Also of/ Mr William Hammond/ husband of the above/ Martha Hammond/ who died 10th December/ 1780 aged 46/                                       
                                                                             
Footstone: MH 1792; WH 1780.

Hope the above is of use to you

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Re: william hammond
« Reply #6 on: Friday 03 July 09 09:09 UTC (UK) »

Hi Julia

Welcome to Rootschat Cheesy

I found this burial which seems to tie in

Waldron All Saints 30th Oct 1766 Ann Hammond age 35 wife of William Hammond of Lewes Tanner

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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge
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Re: william hammond
« Reply #7 on: Friday 03 July 09 09:14 UTC (UK) »

And another one

Waldron All Saints 5th Sep 1760 Anne Hammond inf d of William and Anne of Lewes

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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge
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Re: william hammond
« Reply #8 on: Friday 03 July 09 09:17 UTC (UK) »

Hi Julia

Going back to your original questions:

Looks as though there is an extra girl named Ann who was born in 1760, but was deceased by 1764 as another child was named Ann bapt Oct 1764 - no entry in the St John Sub Castro burial registers??

Elizabeth Hammond married John Hargreaves in 1783, but again I can not find a burial entry for her in the St John Sub Castro registers.  You mention that she was buried in her fathers vault in 1785, but I do not think it is in Sub Castro Churchyard!!

Have checked registers for Sub Castro, All Saints, South Malling and Southover, all parts of Lewes - but unfortunately I have not done any work on St Michaels or St Annes - so cannot check there

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Re: william hammond
« Reply #9 on: Friday 03 July 09 09:21 UTC (UK) »

hi Janan

Thanks for that extra information from Waldron - it seems to tie in nicely with the info that we have.  Really appreciate that.

Unfortunately I do not have any data on that part of Lewes.

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Re: william hammond
« Reply #10 on: Friday 03 July 09 09:26 UTC (UK) »

Julia

You said in your first message

"William Hammond, stonemason of Lewes".

All the references that I have are William was a Tanner and Hargraves was the Stonemason - did you get them mixed up, or do you know something that I dont.

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Re: william hammond
« Reply #11 on: Friday 03 July 09 09:33 UTC (UK) »

Hi Julia/Chris

Found this burial for Elizabeth in Sussex Burials

Lewes St John Sub Castro 19th March 1785 Elizabeth Hargraves wife of John

Strange she is missing from your database Chris Huh

The Waldron burial for Ann also has William as a Tanner

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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge
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Re: william hammond
« Reply #12 on: Friday 03 July 09 09:34 UTC (UK) »

Julia

Attached to this message is the 1799 map of Lewes which quite clearly shows in the top left corner the Tanyard where William would have worked and the OLD St John Sub Castro Church before it was rebuilt in the position it occupies today.

Just helping to put everything into context for you - Map removed

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Re: william hammond
« Reply #13 on: Friday 03 July 09 09:48 UTC (UK) »

Chris

The map link won't open for me just gives an error messagesaying I am not allowed to view attachments on this board!

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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge
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Re: william hammond
« Reply #14 on: Friday 03 July 09 09:54 UTC (UK) »

Hi Jan

Found this burial for Elizabeth in Sussex Burials

Lewes St John Sub Castro 19th March 1785 Elizabeth Hargraves wife of John

Strange she is missing from your database Chris


Yes, I quite agree - have just re-checked the database both in 'burial date'  order and again in 'surname sorted' order - very strange indeed.

I transcribed that register back in the mid 1990's and I do have the original transcription on floppy disks, so will have to recheck that all the data came over; otherwise will have to admit that I missed that entry.

Thanks for finding it Jan; you are a star whilst I am a fading comet

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Jan - sorry you can not see the map, can you see the picture of the gravestone?
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