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Census details 1861, 1871, 1891, 1901 Charles & Amelia HEAVENS
« on: Tuesday 07 July 09 11:54 UTC (UK) »

Good afternoon,

I would be very grateful for help in finding detais from the 1861, 1871, 1891 & 1901 Censuses for the following household:

Charles HEAVENS b. Lydiard Tregoze, Wilts c1840.  Occ. Tailor.
Amelia (wife néé probably PAGE) b. Lewes c1842

They were married in Brighton in 2Q 1860 (the Bmd result has blanks but I found the date of 22nd April 1860 on IGI)

They may have had a first child, Charles A. J. Heavens by the 1861 census, but not sure.

By 1871 they appear to have had 3 more children:
- Fanny Amelia b. Camberwell, Surrey 1864
- Robert H. b. Croydon 1866
- Frank George b. Lewes 1870

In 1881 the familywas living at 1 Waterloo Place, Lewes, and there were 4 more children:
- Willie Owen b. Lewes 1872
- Alfred Ernest b. Lewes 1875
- Walter Sidney b. Lewes 1877
- Ellen Sarah b. Lewes 1879

Amelia the mother died in Lewes in 1892 so Charles would appear as a widower - unless remarried - in 1901.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Many thanks,

Nick
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Re: Census details 1861, 1871, 1891, 1901 Charles & Amelia HEAVENS
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 07 July 09 12:01 UTC (UK) »

1861

RG9/1271/101/15 Prospect Place, Swindon


Chas heavens, 21, Tailor, Lydyard Trezoze
Amelia, 20, Sussex, Lewes
Chas A, 1 week, Wilts, Swindon


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Re: Census details 1861, 1871, 1891, 1901 Charles & Amelia HEAVENS
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 07 July 09 12:06 UTC (UK) »

1871

RG10/1067/105/38
15 York St, Lewes

Heavens:
Charles, 31, Tailor, Wiltshire
Amelia, 29, Sussex
Charles, 10, Wiltshire, Swindon
Fanny, 7, Surrey, Camberwell
Robert, 4,, Surrey, Norwood
Frank, 5 months, Lewes

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Re: Census details 1861, 1871, 1891, 1901 Charles & Amelia HEAVENS
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 07 July 09 12:10 UTC (UK) »

1891

RG12/798/27/14 Waterloo Place, lewes

Heavens:

Charles, 51, Tailor
Amelia, 49
Frank, 20, Tailor
Willie, 17, Clerk
Alfred, 15,  "
Walter, 13, Scholar
Nellie, 11       "

All offspring born Lewes

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Re: Census details 1861, 1871, 1891, 1901 Charles & Amelia HEAVENS
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 07 July 09 12:18 UTC (UK) »

1901 RG13/911/53/14

Burgess Hill, Keymer, Sussex

Charles Heavens, 62
Eliza Davey,24,  Servant, tailoress, Swafield, Sussex

This one is wrongly transcribed as havers on An*****Y but is definitely him. Also he has himself as married but if you know that Amelia has died, I'd imagine that was just a slip of the tongue on census night!

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Re: Census details 1861, 1871, 1891, 1901 Charles & Amelia HEAVENS
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 07 July 09 14:41 UTC (UK) »

Hi there Nick

Have these baptisms in my database (St John Sub Castro) which may be of interest to you

1744   Aug   26   Page   Humphry   m      Thomas   Mary         
1744   May   27   Page   Thomas   m      John   Elizabeth         
1746   Oct   26   Page   Sarah   f      Thomas   Mary         
1751   Aug   4   Page   William   m      Thomas   Mary         
1756   Jun   10   Page   Mary   f      Thomas   Mary         born Jun 11, 1755
1774   Jan   9   Page   William   m      William   Elizabeth         
1793   Nov   10   Page   William   m      Frank   Jane         
1820   Nov   26   Page   Caroline   f      Thomas   Elizabeth   OTP   Tinman   
1828   Jul   6   Page   Thomas Alfred   m      Thomas   Elizabeth   OTP   Tinman   
1830   Aug   1   Page   Mary Ann Goodwin   f   d   Thomas   Elizabeth   OTP   Tin Man   
1832   Feb   28   Page   Emma Godwin   f   d   Thomas   Elizabeth   OTP   Tin Man   
1834   May   4   Page   William James   m   s   Thomas   Elizabeth   OTP   Tin Man   
1838   Mch   4   Page   Edward   m   s      Frances   OTP   Servant   
1841   Jan   10   Page   Ellen   f   d   william   Frances   OTP   Labourer   
1843   May   28   Page   Amelia   f   d   William   Frances   Church St   Labourer   
1844   Nov   24   Page   Martha   f   d   Josiah   Fanny   North St   Servant   
1713   Aug   9   Paige   Thomas   m      William    Sarah         now living at Barley Banks in St Johns
1656   Aug   12   Paine   William   m      John   Anne   in Care Streete, St Michells parish      
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Re: Census details 1861, 1871, 1891, 1901 Charles & Amelia HEAVENS
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 07 July 09 14:53 UTC (UK) »

Hi again Nick

Earlier you stated:

They may have had a first child, Charles A. J. Heavens by the 1861 census, but not sure.

St John Sub Castro Baptisms

This is the only baptism recorded in this church to Charles / Amelia

1872   Dec   1   Heavens   Willie Owen   m   s   Charles   Amelia   OTP   Tailor

Hope it helps

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Re: Census details 1861, 1871, 1891, 1901 Charles & Amelia HEAVENS
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 07 July 09 15:02 UTC (UK) »

As you see from my 1861 findings, Charles A. was indeed born, a week before the census.  Smiley

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Re: Census details 1861, 1871, 1891, 1901 Charles & Amelia HEAVENS
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 07 July 09 18:59 UTC (UK) »

Good evening Jen, Chris,

You have both been more than helpful ! Thank you kindly for all that information, which has given me almost everything I needed.

Curiously enough I have been unable to find a Bmd record for the first child, Charles b. 1861, but then FreeBmd is known to have gaps at times...........

Likewise Charles the father doesn't seem to figure in the FreeBmd records. His parents were Angel HEAVENS & Mary HUNT. Do you have access to other listings or databases ? Familysearch doesn't figure the baptism for Charles either for some reason, only the birth c1839 in the 1881 Census which I have.

Many thanks once again for your time and trouble.

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Re: Census details 1861, 1871, 1891, 1901 Charles & Amelia HEAVENS
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 07 July 09 19:11 UTC (UK) »

Do you have this entry from 1841?

HO107/1179/9
Lydiard

Angel Heavens, 30, Lab.
Mary, 35
Mary 14
Henry, 11
William, 6
Charles, 1
Sarah, 2mo

All born in county.

Can I just say that Angel Heavens has to be one of the best names ever! Cheesy Cheesy

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Re: Census details 1861, 1871, 1891, 1901 Charles & Amelia HEAVENS
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 07 July 09 19:22 UTC (UK) »

Hi

Is this Charles's birth?  ( from FMP)

CHARLES ANGEL JOSIUS HEAVENS  Jun quarter 1861 Highworth 5a 10

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Re: Census details 1861, 1871, 1891, 1901 Charles & Amelia HEAVENS
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 07 July 09 22:28 UTC (UK) »

Good evening again Jen,

Thanks for the 1841 details which enabled me to check what I had noted.

Just for the record, Angel is a name that runs in the Heavens family; my 3 x Great grandfather in direct line is also called Angel Heavens ! Many is the time that I've been told you would have had to invent it !

Good evening Jan,

I think you've succeeded in hitting the nail on the head with your Bmd find. Many thanks for that. To boot he's also callled Angel, after his father, and Highworth is certainly the district for Lydiard Tregoze.

Much appreciated and much obliged to you both for your extra help.

Nick
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