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Nev Carter
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Thomas Carter, Little Hatfield, Parents
« on: Friday 03 July 09 08:53 UTC (UK) »

Thomas carter was born in Little Hatfield in 1794. He married Susannah Hodge 6th June 1826 in Burton Pidsea.

They had 8 children, all except 1 were born in Burton Pidsea, the other in Ellerby.
Charles 1833, Christopher 1828, John 1829, Henry 1831, Isaac 1837, Edward 1839 and William 1840 were Burton Pidsea.

William 1835 to 1835 was Ellerby.

I have a date of Dec 1852 for Thomas's death, but cannot find a record to confirm this.
I also cannot find any reference to who his parents were.
This is why I was after the death certificate for additional information.

Can anyone help please?

I have Charles, William and Isaac traced to current day in Australia if this is of interest to any one else.

Cheers

Nev
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Carter from Yorkshire, Elliott from Kent, Lambeth from London, Langtry from Liverpool and Ireland, Wishart from Cornwall and Virgo from Sussex.
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Re: Thomas Carter, Little Hatfield, Parents
« Reply #1 on: Friday 03 July 09 11:01 UTC (UK) »

This looks as if it could be his death record

Deaths Dec 1852   
Carter    Thomas        Patrington    9d   163

Regards Judi
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Gaskell, Ormskirk, Upholland, Pemberton, Lancashire
Screeton/Screaton, Nottingham
Lomax Suffolk, Lancashire
Ghilks, Mansfield
Jones, Wales
Banham, Norwich
Rothwell, Lancashire
Tinks, Suffolk
Shepherd, Lancashire
Nev Carter
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Re: Thomas Carter, Little Hatfield, Parents
« Reply #2 on: Friday 03 July 09 11:21 UTC (UK) »

Judi, Thanks for that, I did not find that one.

The other I did find was
Sep 1852
Sculcoates 9d 122

but this did not match the Dec date. Will order certificates and see what I find.

Where did you locate that info?

Nev
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Re: Thomas Carter, Little Hatfield, Parents
« Reply #3 on: Friday 03 July 09 11:48 UTC (UK) »

Hi Nev

Located on http://www.freebmd.org.uk

Patrington is the Reg district for Burton Pidsea where he ws living at the time so a good bet it's your guy

Cheers & happy hunting

Judi
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Gaskell, Ormskirk, Upholland, Pemberton, Lancashire
Screeton/Screaton, Nottingham
Lomax Suffolk, Lancashire
Ghilks, Mansfield
Jones, Wales
Banham, Norwich
Rothwell, Lancashire
Tinks, Suffolk
Shepherd, Lancashire
Nev Carter
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Re: Thomas Carter, Little Hatfield, Parents
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 04 July 09 01:24 UTC (UK) »

Judi, Thats where I miss out, not knowing the sub districts.
I use Google Earth to help, but its not definate on data like that

Cheers

Nev
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Re: Thomas Carter, Little Hatfield, Parents
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 04 July 09 04:21 UTC (UK) »

Hi Nev and welcome to rootschat.

Just to avoid you being disappointed...19th C. death certs don't contain much family info-parents, spouses etc are not named.  You can get lucky with the informant being a family member but that is chance.

You'll get parents' names on birth certs and fathers' names on marriage certs.

charlotte

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HARGREAVES, HANSON, BAILEY, BURTON, HEWITT, JAGGER, LOCKWOOD, UTTLEY, RUDD, TAYLOR, HOLDEN, SHAW  Halifax / Sowerby/ Southowram 18C+

GILL, Accrington, Blackburn, West Derby, Lancs, migrated USA 1891 to RI: GILL in SC: HOTCHKISS in RI: PELOQUIN in RI 

HUMPHRIES, HILLIER, ALLEN, LYDBURY  Nunney/Frome 18-19C

HUMPHRIES, JOYCE, HEWITT, ROBINSON, McMULLEN, SUFFEL, CARNEY, MARRON, COMPTON, FREEMAN  Ont. Canada 1830+

PILSEN, Sask.

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Nev Carter
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Re: Thomas Carter, Little Hatfield, Parents
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 04 July 09 04:54 UTC (UK) »

Charlotte, I did not realise that. Australian DCs have a lot of information.

I will try to find his marriage Cert then, I have dates so should be easy enough I hope.

Thanks for welcome, its a good forum

cheers

Nev
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Re: Thomas Carter, Little Hatfield, Parents
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 04 July 09 05:49 UTC (UK) »

Yes, Nev, Aus death certs are wonderfully informative- assuming the informant knew the facts.  English DC by comparison on very short on leads...
As you've said, go fo the marriage certr. Cheesy

Let us know how this pans out.

charlotte
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HARGREAVES, HANSON, BAILEY, BURTON, HEWITT, JAGGER, LOCKWOOD, UTTLEY, RUDD, TAYLOR, HOLDEN, SHAW  Halifax / Sowerby/ Southowram 18C+

GILL, Accrington, Blackburn, West Derby, Lancs, migrated USA 1891 to RI: GILL in SC: HOTCHKISS in RI: PELOQUIN in RI 

HUMPHRIES, HILLIER, ALLEN, LYDBURY  Nunney/Frome 18-19C

HUMPHRIES, JOYCE, HEWITT, ROBINSON, McMULLEN, SUFFEL, CARNEY, MARRON, COMPTON, FREEMAN  Ont. Canada 1830+

PILSEN, Sask.

82nd Regt of Foot 1808-1825
1st WRY Militia 1780-1800
Nev Carter
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Re: Thomas Carter, Little Hatfield, Parents
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 05 July 09 06:50 UTC (UK) »

I need the GRO index to order the marriage certificate for Thomas and Susannah, any ideas on how to get that, all records I have found do not have it.
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Re: Thomas Carter, Little Hatfield, Parents
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 05 July 09 07:09 UTC (UK) »

Hullo again,
The civil reg of marriages starts in 1837 so BDMs must be for after that date. T


the site on which you can check such events and get GRO  number to order certs if .... freebmd

Transcriptions for the site are up to abt  the 1920s so that covers about 80 yrs of civil reg.   

charlotte
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HARGREAVES, HANSON, BAILEY, BURTON, HEWITT, JAGGER, LOCKWOOD, UTTLEY, RUDD, TAYLOR, HOLDEN, SHAW  Halifax / Sowerby/ Southowram 18C+

GILL, Accrington, Blackburn, West Derby, Lancs, migrated USA 1891 to RI: GILL in SC: HOTCHKISS in RI: PELOQUIN in RI 

HUMPHRIES, HILLIER, ALLEN, LYDBURY  Nunney/Frome 18-19C

HUMPHRIES, JOYCE, HEWITT, ROBINSON, McMULLEN, SUFFEL, CARNEY, MARRON, COMPTON, FREEMAN  Ont. Canada 1830+

PILSEN, Sask.

82nd Regt of Foot 1808-1825
1st WRY Militia 1780-1800
charlotteCH
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Re: Thomas Carter, Little Hatfield, Parents
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 05 July 09 07:13 UTC (UK) »

When you get the GRO reference for the cert you want this link should take you to the order site.  It costs 7GBP per cert.


http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates

charlotte
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HARGREAVES, HANSON, BAILEY, BURTON, HEWITT, JAGGER, LOCKWOOD, UTTLEY, RUDD, TAYLOR, HOLDEN, SHAW  Halifax / Sowerby/ Southowram 18C+

GILL, Accrington, Blackburn, West Derby, Lancs, migrated USA 1891 to RI: GILL in SC: HOTCHKISS in RI: PELOQUIN in RI 

HUMPHRIES, HILLIER, ALLEN, LYDBURY  Nunney/Frome 18-19C

HUMPHRIES, JOYCE, HEWITT, ROBINSON, McMULLEN, SUFFEL, CARNEY, MARRON, COMPTON, FREEMAN  Ont. Canada 1830+

PILSEN, Sask.

82nd Regt of Foot 1808-1825
1st WRY Militia 1780-1800
Nev Carter
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Re: Thomas Carter, Little Hatfield, Parents
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 05 July 09 07:15 UTC (UK) »

Tried there Charlotte, plus others

Have the link for ordering cert, have got quite a few so far.

This is a brick wall with a moat around it getting back further.

nev
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Re: Thomas Carter, Little Hatfield, Parents
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 05 July 09 07:24 UTC (UK) »

Sorry for repeating what you know Embarrassed Embarrassed

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HARGREAVES, HANSON, BAILEY, BURTON, HEWITT, JAGGER, LOCKWOOD, UTTLEY, RUDD, TAYLOR, HOLDEN, SHAW  Halifax / Sowerby/ Southowram 18C+

GILL, Accrington, Blackburn, West Derby, Lancs, migrated USA 1891 to RI: GILL in SC: HOTCHKISS in RI: PELOQUIN in RI 

HUMPHRIES, HILLIER, ALLEN, LYDBURY  Nunney/Frome 18-19C

HUMPHRIES, JOYCE, HEWITT, ROBINSON, McMULLEN, SUFFEL, CARNEY, MARRON, COMPTON, FREEMAN  Ont. Canada 1830+

PILSEN, Sask.

82nd Regt of Foot 1808-1825
1st WRY Militia 1780-1800
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Re: Thomas Carter, Little Hatfield, Parents
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 05 July 09 07:28 UTC (UK) »

No need to apologise, I am a beginner and its good that you thought to tell me.

Its now getting frustrating

cheers

Nev
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Re: Thomas Carter, Little Hatfield, Parents
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 05 July 09 12:41 UTC (UK) »

Hi Nev,

Can I ask how you know Thomas Carter's birthplace and year?

Little Hatfield wasn't a parish in it's own right - it came under the parish of Sigglesthorne, which is - supposedly - covered by the IGI. There are absolutely no Carter baptisms in Sigglesthorne on the IGI.

Also, if you look at the relevant page on Genuki:

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ERY/Sigglesthorne/index.html

you'll see that, even in the early 1820s, the population of Little Hatfield was only 25!!

It's possible that the family were nonconformists and that would explain why there are no Carter baptisms in the parish church. Are you absolutely sure about your info?

Susannah Hodge's baptism is on the IGI - 20 July 1806 Aldbrough d/o Christopher & Mary. Looking at the names of Thomas & Susannah's children in date order, it looks as if they have named their first son Christopher after Susannah's father. Perhaps one of the other boys' names is that of Thomas' father?

Nev,this rings a slight bell - have I already looked for the 1826 marriage in Burton Pidsea to see if there is any additional info? (I loose track!!). If not, I'll do so next time I go to the Record Office.

Jill

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