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Debbie658
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HAMPTON help please
« on: Friday 03 July 09 08:59 UTC (UK) »
Hi,

I'm looking for a marriage of a David HAMPTON to an Elizabeth (not sure of maiden name) early 1800s in Montrose, Forfar.

The only information I have on the Hampton family is a son called "William" who was born about 1820/21 at Ct Cyrus Kincardineshire.  This information was from a passenger list of 1854 shipping records.  It says his parents were "David and Elizabeth" with father living at Montrose in 1854.

Any help with this would be very much appreciated.  Many thanks in advance....

Deb  Smiley
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MonicaLesl
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Re: HAMPTON help please
« Reply #1 on: Friday 03 July 09 09:14 UTC (UK) »
Hi Deb

From IGI at www.familysearch.org these looks to be the children born to a David Hampton and an Elizabeth (Betty) Cooper:

1. DAVID HAMPTONChristening: 11 JUN 1811 Marykirk, Kincardine
2. WILLIAM HAMPTON   Christening: 20 JUN 1820 Saint Cyrus, Kincardine
3. MARY HAMPTON Christening: 07 APR 1823 Saint Cyrus, Kincardine
4. ANDREW HAMPTON Christening: 20 OCT 1828 Saint Cyrus, Kincardine

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Re: HAMPTON help please
« Reply #2 on: Friday 03 July 09 09:24 UTC (UK) »
monica  Smiley

i was looking at this one yesterday on another post from Deb
1841 census has hamptons living at woodside of hedderwick montrose and a few things seem to line up
can you look up the 1851 census and see if they are still there ?

thanks

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Re: HAMPTON help please
« Reply #3 on: Friday 03 July 09 09:56 UTC (UK) »
Hi Monica,

Thanks for the reply and the info.  I can't seem to find a marriage for David and Elizabeth though.  Have searched the IGI for this marraige but nothing there.  Is Saint Cyrus near Marykirk?


Hi Ev,

I had another look at that shipping record and found David's parents, well his dad at least, living at Montrose, Forfar so I thought I'd try this board as well as Kincardine.  On the shipping record it has William as being born at St Cyrus, Kincardineshire, so it looks like this is my William Smiley  Thanks for the Census info too but the only thing is that William is 16 months in 1841 and my William was born about 1820/21 so not sure if this is right family Undecided

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Re: HAMPTON help please
« Reply #4 on: Friday 03 July 09 10:02 UTC (UK) »
hi all  Smiley

SP has elizabeth hampton(other surname coupar) died 1881 montrose angus
born c1791

1881 census rotten row montrose has
andrew hampton 52 b. marykirk kincardineshire
elizabeth hampton 90 b. glenbervie kcd(mother)
jean hampton 62 b. logie-pert angus(sister)

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Re: HAMPTON help please
« Reply #5 on: Friday 03 July 09 10:04 UTC (UK) »
I've got to shoot off as I am so late  Tongue I'll look at the 1851 entries later if someone else has not done so  Smiley

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Re: HAMPTON help please
« Reply #6 on: Friday 03 July 09 10:13 UTC (UK) »
Thanks Monica.  Ev did you see my edit to my last post about 1841 Census?  Do you think this could be the right family even if the birth dates are conflicting Undecided

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Re: HAMPTON help please
« Reply #7 on: Friday 03 July 09 10:57 UTC (UK) »
i think this is a different william but think this family is well worth checking
david and betty are about the right age and children mary and andrew would
line up with dates monica found
did you see that there is a david hampton(age 30) and family staying at the
same place in 1841 which could line up with another of the dates that monica
found on the IGI
census details ages and birthplaces are not always accurate but i was hoping
the 1851 census would give us a few more clues
not sure were your william hampton is in 1841

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Re: HAMPTON help please
« Reply #8 on: Friday 03 July 09 11:48 UTC (UK) »
Hi Deb and Ev

Deb, what is the exact wording on the manifest regarding William's father David? Does it actually say father living at ....  or simply show father David as being from Montrose?

The reason I ask is that the 1851 entry (which matches the entry from 1841) shows Elizabeth (Betty) as a widow:

Elisabeth Hampton 50, widow, Farmer Of 51 Acres 1 Lab, b. Fordoun, Kincardine
Betty Hampton 33, b. Marykirk, Kincardine
Andrew Hampton 21, Marykirk, Kincardine
William Mitchell 11, grandchild b. Montrose

Address: Wood Side Hedderwick, Montrose Angus

Which fits well with that 1841 entry:

David Hampton 50, agr. Lab.
Betty Hampton 50, b. Scotland
Elspet Hampton 25, b. Scotland
Mary Hampton 20
Helen Hampton 15
Ann Hampton 15, b. Scotland
Andrew Hampton 12, b. Scotland
William Hampton 16 Months

Address: Woodside Of Hedderwick, Montrose

Deb, I would imagine that the entry above with the William Hampton at 16 months may be a grandchild not your William. The 1841 census is the most limited of all the censuses. No relationships are shown within the household and ages for those over 15 were supposed to be rounded down to the nearest 5 years. So parents above could have been born anywhere from 1787 - 91.

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Re: HAMPTON help please
« Reply #9 on: Friday 03 July 09 11:51 UTC (UK) »
Is this your William before his departure in 1851:

William Hampton 30, agr. lab., b. St Cyrus, Kincardine
Jean Hampton 30, b. Birse, Aberdeen
Mary Hampton 5, b. Dun, Forfar
Agness Hampton 3, b. Dun, Forfar 

Address: Lamondfauld, Montrose

Monica

Added: Which fits with a marriage for a William Hampton and a Jane Wright on 18 AUG 1844 in Montrose.
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Re: HAMPTON help please
« Reply #10 on: Friday 03 July 09 23:41 UTC (UK) »
Hi Monica and Ev  Smiley

Thank you both so much for your help with this.  Yes, this is my William in 1851 as it has the same children on the shipping record.  The exact wording under parents' names for William is "David and Elizabeth, father living at Montrose, Forfar" no mention of Elizabeth.  Does this info help any?

Also Ev, what does "SP" stand for in your reply "SP has elizabeth hampton(other surname coupar) died 1881 montrose angus born c1791"?

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Re: HAMPTON help please
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 04 July 09 06:31 UTC (UK) »
sorry , SP is scotlandspeople website - official births deaths and marriages
from 1855
if you go to

http://www.ancestralscotland.com/

and you have not registered already you can get ten free credits
you would then have to register with SP and enter the voucher code that
is emailed to you
given what everyone has discovered so far i feel the death certificate of
elizabeth hampton(other surname coupar) is worth a look at
it should contain the name of her husband(david hampton) and hopefully
the name of her parents.
as a bonus it might be signed off by her son/daughter(andrew or jean)
more about SP here-

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,24468.0.html

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