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woody32
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Anyone Else got murderers in the family?.. This is a transcribed newspaper report of one of the Blacksheep in my family.
When i was younger my gran used to say that we had a murderer in the family but never actually said who he was, so just took it for granted that she was trying to scare us.
Then when i was looking through the death Index i saw all the family on the same date, so i sent for one of the childrens death certificates and saw cause of death "Wilful Murder" so sent off for the other three.
I love the way the newspaper article uses the dialect of the area when they quote somebody.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/16549723/A-Rhodes-Tragedy
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LANCASHIRE = Wood,Howard,,Smethurst,Foxall,Cheetham,Brookes,Grime, Horrocks,Thornley,Arstall,Shawcross,Rowland,Mclean LINCOLNSHIRE = Featherstone Johnson,Toyne,Willson,
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~Rachel~
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Posts: 254
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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I can't open that link.  Think it's cos I'm on my work computer, what does it say??! Who killed who?
Sounds fascinating I'd love to research something like that.
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Waite, Marchant, Nash, Goddard, Pocock, Hiles, Switzer, Larondie, Harris, Radford, Monger, Harper, Harris, Sixsmith, Fitzgerald.
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Nick29
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No murderers in my family, but there are a few that I'd like to throttle ! 
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Best Wishes, Nick. Research interests: Field - Luton & Islington Hole - Somerset, Suffolk & Surrey Farnish, Parker, Cattermole, Last, Wasp, Church - Suffolk Lewin/Lowin/Lowen - Hertfordhire Martin - Eltham & Greenwich, Kent (London) Stead - Greenwich, London (Kent) & Maidstone Wood - Hertfordshire Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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MarieC
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Posts: 3302
In Queensland, Oz
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That's a very gory story indeed!!  Certainly papers at that time seemed to revel in printing all the gory details! 
I have a murderer, not a direct ancestor. This was in remote frontier conditions in the Northern Territory of Australia in the nineteenth century. He asked his uncle for a bullock (to which he was not entitled), and when he was refused, attacked his uncle and beat him savagely. The man died shortly after from his wounds, and the murderer melted away as one could do at that time in the more remote parts of Australia. I know that at one stage, he was in South Australia using his cousin's (my great-grandfather's) name as an alias - I take a very dim view of that indeed, as my ggrandfather was scrupulously honest all his life!
This murderer seems to have led a lonely, wandering existence after that, with no close ties or family, so no doubt he suffered from his misdeeds.
MarieC
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Martins in London and Wales, Lockwoods in Yorkshire, Hartleys in London, Lichfield and Brighton, Hubands and Smiths in Ireland, Bentleys in London and Yorkshire, Denhams in Somerset, Scoles in London, Meyers in London, Cooks in Northumberland
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paslwigr
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Hi Woody32,
I was reading the local paper one night three years ago, when with horror I read an article by a local historian, saying that it was 100 years since the horrific murder of his wife and child, by my great-grand uncle, by slashing their throats and then committed suicide in the bedroom. The worst part was he hadn't quite killed his 12 year old daughter, but mortally wounded her and she had tried to get help from a neighbour but bled to death before anyone could help, although it's doubtful if she could have been saved even today. I felt so sick and sorry even though I had obviously never known them.
Then this year I was helping a friend with her family history and found that in 1877 the husband of an ancestor of hers had slashed the throat of his landlady's baby for no apparent reason. It was in all the papers and he ended his days in Broadmoor.
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msallen
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I have two direct ancestors, one on my father's side and one on my mother's, who were both charged with, but acquitted of, the same murder in the 1830s !
Sounds bizarre, but they were both actually amongst 20 or so lead miners, who were accused of the murder of three miners from a rival mine. The mines met underground, and there was all sorts of antagonism between the miners from each one. One day a fire was deliberately started which killed 3 men from one of the mines, and pretty much everyone from the other mine, who was underground at the time, was charged with their murder. In the end no-one was found guilty.
http://www.wirksworth.org.uk/REDSOIL.htm
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Too many to list! Presently particularly interested in ALLEN, HODGKINSON, FLINT, SWINDELL, SHELDON, BINGHAM, JACKSON - all in Derbyshire
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fallingonabruise
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'bring out your dead'
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'The Merry widow of Windy Nook'
http://www.sundaysun.co.uk/news/north-east-news/2004/11/28/cops-have-last-laugh-79310-14928699/
My Great Grandmother was sentenced to death for poisoning her last 2 husbands, She is also thought to have killed her first husband (my great grandad John Knowles) and her lover.
She was granted a reprieve due to her age.
She was known as Mary Wilson by that time but her birth name was Elizabeth Cassidy,
I am trying to find out more about her,
I have a photo of her in a book called 'Lady Killers' and found a Paper written about the public reaction to her reprieve.
its not nice having such a skeleton in our closet but we can't help who are ancestors are...
so if anyone finds out anything else about her please let me know
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Lloyd in london, Jelfs, Cheatham, Taylor, Raistrick, Knowles, Cassidy, Blackburn, Corns, Gallagher
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Notinpastyet
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Hey Great Grandmother & the Rat Poision, sure was getting through the husbands in her life (I know it sound awful but hey I enjoyed the write up.)Hands up yes I too have a couple of Murderer's in the family tree,thankfully no one to close to me.Regards Nipy
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little meg
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I have just found one
Very sad story, large write up in newspaper on the inquest.
1870, Australia, mother kills her newborn baby.
A little bit of nasty detail, so if you have a weak stomach, turn away now.
She gave birth to the child in a toilet, it appears that the cord was half torn and half cut. The policeman had to search the 'water closet' for the baby and the afterbirth.
The mother was convicted of murder and only given 6 months inprisonment.
She had conceiled her pregnancy, even though she was living with her mother at the time, they all seem to think she had just put on weight
Now my problem is, the baby was neither registered for birth or for death.
So how can someone be charged with murder??
It could fall into the same catagory as still borns, where births were not recorded.
She went on to have more children with no father mentioned.
Her husband had left her 10 months prior to the murder, so that baby was not his either.
Margaret
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