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Topic: Christian names, entries on original scan BMD (Read 323 times)
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wendy47
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Tarnwater
If you have Ancestry BMD's you can look at the original register. I believe FreeBMD copies Ancestry's transcriptions but I may be wrong.
Earlier ones are handwritten so it could be a mistranscription. You don't mention what date you are looking for so if you don't have Ancestry come back to me.
Wendy 
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VEAL, PRICE, STURGE, BELLET, DREW, TAYLOR Som/Glos
COTTERELL, NAPPER, NASH, FLEETWOOD, HANDLEY, COLLINS Hereford
NASH, TYLER Warks, Kent
CROWE, REYNOLDS, BEARMAN Suflk/Essx/Middx
Abraham CARLSON/CHARLSON Sweden/E Ldn
COX Wilts
STILES, DORTON Middx, Surrey
"Fisher" HALLUM London? HANSTEY, MARSHALL Northumberland
ELDRIDGE, ALDRIDGE, STILES, DORTON Ldn RAGLESS, NYE Sussex
FEGAN, LOUGHLIN Down
CLAYTON SWEENY Cork
PROBABLE IMPOSSIBILITIES ARE TO BE PREFERRED TO IMPROBABLE POSSIBILITIES - ARISTOTLE
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Tarnwater
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Wendy,
I have looked at the original on FreeBMD, and the christian name is James.
My question,is, could the original be wrong?
John Sloane born 13/05/1821, in Caerhun, Caernarvonshire. He married Margaret Roberts born 1918, at Caerhun. She dies 9 Sept 1894 but there is no record for his death around Llechwedd, Conwy. His father was from Everton, Liverpool, so that is the only place away from home that I would expect to find him.
Thanks
Brian
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PRITCHARD[CAERNARVONSHIRE/DENBIGHSHIRE
EVANS[CAERNARVONSHIRE]
SLOAN/SLOANE[CAERNARVONSHIRE]
WILLIAMS[Caernarvonshire]
JONES[Caernarvonshire]
ROBERTS[Caernarvonshire]
TODD[ANTRIM]
McNEILL[Antrim]
FURNEAUX[DEVON]
SKINNER[DEVON]
WEST[Devon]
SANDERS/SAUNDERS[DEVON]
WEBBER[Devon]
BARRET[Devon]
POPE[Devon]
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andycand
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Hi Brian
First of all the information on a death certificate relies on the knowledge of the informant who may not be a family member. The local register office forward a copy quarterly to the GRO who then prepare the GRO Index. This index is what most of us access for information, its also what the FreeBMD is transcribed from. Its possible for an error to be made at each of the stages.
Deaths have to be registered in the Registration district where that death occurred so you may need to look further afield than the places you suggest. Have you tracked him through the censuses to narrow down when he may have died?
Also, death certificates do not automatically include family information. It may say husband of, or widower of, but not always. Unless the informant is a family member you can identify you could end up not being certain you have the right certificate.
Andy
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behindthefrogs
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Before an entry appears in the GRO index it will have been transcribed about three times, and once more to appear the FreeBMD entry.
The local registration office index will have been transcribed fewer times but the real answer is to purchase the certificate to see what it says, preferably from the local office.
However as Andy says, if there is an error the most likely source of the error, particularly for a death certificate is the informant. Once again purchase of the certificate might help to indicate whether the informant was someone who ought to have known his corect name.
David
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Living in Berkshire. From Northampton & Milton Keynes DETAILS OF THE FOLLOWING NAMES ARE IN SURNAME INTERESTS, LINK AT FOOT OF PAGE Wilson, Higgs, Buswell, PARCELL, Matthews, TAMKIN, Seckington, Pates, Coupland, Webb, Arthur, MAYNARD, Caves, Norman, Winch, Culverhouse, Drakeley. Johnson, Routledge, SHIRT, SAICH, Mills, SAUNDERS, EDLIN, Perry, Vickers, Pakeman, Griffiths, Marston, Turner, Child, Sheen, Gray, Woolhouse Census Info is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Tarnwater
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Hello Andy & Dave,
Both, very good information, thank you.
I have managed to locate John Sloane on the 1881 Census, he is living at Llanerch y Fuwch with his wife, Margaret RG11/5581 Folio 73a Page 13.
I cannot find him on any 1891 census. Margaret is a widow on the 1891 Census, living at No. 5 Groesffordd, Gyffin, with Robert Prichard Davies and his family, she dies 9 Sept 1894 and is bureid at Llechweed Chapel Cemetery, John is not mentioned on the headstone.
John Dies sometime between 1881 and 1891.
You are right to say, send off for the certificate, and see. That could be quite hit or miss, and costly
Thanks again
Brian.
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PRITCHARD[CAERNARVONSHIRE/DENBIGHSHIRE
EVANS[CAERNARVONSHIRE]
SLOAN/SLOANE[CAERNARVONSHIRE]
WILLIAMS[Caernarvonshire]
JONES[Caernarvonshire]
ROBERTS[Caernarvonshire]
TODD[ANTRIM]
McNEILL[Antrim]
FURNEAUX[DEVON]
SKINNER[DEVON]
WEST[Devon]
SANDERS/SAUNDERS[DEVON]
WEBBER[Devon]
BARRET[Devon]
POPE[Devon]
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andycand
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Hi Brian
Have you checked out the John SLOANE death registered Manchester,March Qtr 1885 age 64 Vol 8d Page 130.
Andy
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Tarnwater
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Andy,
Yes, I did come across that entry for John Sloane, Manchester. He would be the right age at 64 years old, but I do not have any connection with that city.
I am very tempted to try for James Sloan [without the e] Liverpool Mar Qtr 1881, 8a p.147. His family did have a connection to that city, but the Christian name is wrong!
On Saturday, a Birth certificate came for my great, grandfather, his father is named as Harry, but on all census records, it is Henry, as was his marriage certificate. So maybe Christian names can be slightly different.
You can be called Jack for John, and vice versa, but not sure about John for James.
Thanks,
Brian
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PRITCHARD[CAERNARVONSHIRE/DENBIGHSHIRE
EVANS[CAERNARVONSHIRE]
SLOAN/SLOANE[CAERNARVONSHIRE]
WILLIAMS[Caernarvonshire]
JONES[Caernarvonshire]
ROBERTS[Caernarvonshire]
TODD[ANTRIM]
McNEILL[Antrim]
FURNEAUX[DEVON]
SKINNER[DEVON]
WEST[Devon]
SANDERS/SAUNDERS[DEVON]
WEBBER[Devon]
BARRET[Devon]
POPE[Devon]
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Margaret_SLOANE_b._1818._Llechwedd_Chapel.JPG