banshee
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« on: Friday 03 July 09 16:03 UTC (UK) » |
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ANY INFORMATION ON JAMES GUNN WHO MARRIED CHRISTIAN HESLOP IN 1847 AT LAMBERTON TOLL ON THE SCOTTISH BORDERS. THEY MOVED TO SUNDERLAND IN 1851/2 WHERE JAMES DIED IN 1856 AGED 46. THE INFORMATION I WOULD LIKE IS WHERE JAMES LIVED PRIOR TO HIS MARRIAGE AS I CAN NOT GET ANY FURTHER BACK THAN 1847
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Michael Dixon
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Re: marriage
« Reply #2 on: Friday 03 July 09 21:45 UTC (UK) » |
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banshee,
Was the Lamberton Toll marriage ( on Scotland's side of border) an "irregular marriage" carried out by a "scotch preacher". And before statutory registered marriages started in Scotland in 1855.
With GUNN been a very Scottish surname, from very north of Scotland, have you searched for James in Scotland ?
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GALLAGHER ( + variations). Areas. Co Sligo, Co Leitrim, Co Mayo. IRELAND. Ontario, CANADA Lowell, Ma, USA Counties of Northumberland & Durham, ENGLAND ------------------------------------------------------------------- MALEY/MELIA/MALLEY - with or without " O " Westport Co Mayo. Northumberland ------------------------------------------------------------------- DIXON Cumberland.. Brampton, Carlisle, ENGLAND
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Re: marriage
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 05 July 09 14:24 UTC (UK) » |
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The only James Gunn that seems to fit is a baptism on 5th December 1810 in Edinburgh. The parents are listed as Adam Gunn and Margaret Sheils. the other four (searching 1809-1812) are in Caithness, Invernessshire and Orkney.
Note that this is from the Scottish Old Parish Records and these only listed Church of Scotland baptisms and, even so, are not always complete.
I'll see if I can find anything else on Scotlands People - I've got a few credits lying around 
Did they have any children? The Scottish traditional naming conventions might have been used in their naming.
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Re: marriage
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 05 July 09 14:33 UTC (UK) » |
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Hmmm
I think that I've found him on the 1841 in South Leith (Parish No 692/2 Ed 5b Page 1), with mother, Margaret. He's a painter and glazier 
Also, one in Aberdeen, aged 35-39, who's a mason, journeyman but he is married with many children. This one would need to be followed up to check. Parish - Old Machar 168b ED 16 P 3
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added - the Aberdeen one is the only mason b.c. the correct time who is listed on the 1841 Scotland census that I can see
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Re: marriage
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 05 July 09 16:10 UTC (UK) » |
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Hmmm I think that I've found him on the 1841 in South Leith (Parish No 692/2 Ed 5b Page 1), with mother, Margaret. He's a painter and glazier  Also, one in Aberdeen, aged 35-39, who's a mason, journeyman but he is married with many children. This one would need to be followed up to check. Parish - Old Machar 168b ED 16 P 3 Gadget added - the Aberdeen one is the only mason b.c. the correct time who is listed on the 1841 Scotland census that I can see my james was about 36 when he married christian in 1847. they had 4 children after the marriage so i dont think it is probable that the one you have kindly found is him. thanks for your help
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Re: marriage
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 05 July 09 16:16 UTC (UK) » |
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What were their children's names in date order. As I said, it might give a good indication of his parent's names.
Have you found any likely ones in England in 1841?
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« Reply #9 on: Sunday 05 July 09 19:31 UTC (UK) » |
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James Gunn 5/12/1810 EDIN BURGH
father Adam Gunn mother Margaret Shiels
Jame Gun 5/3/1807 Conagate Edin.
Father Alexander Gunn mother Margaret Hunter
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Re: marriage
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 05 July 09 19:42 UTC (UK) » |
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2 more in LANark Glasgow James Gunn 26/3/1813 f. James Gunn m. Elizabeth Willson
James Gunn 13/8/1813 f .Jame Gunn m. Catherine Nicol
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