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George Smith - Denby 1911census
« on: Friday 03 July 09 19:45 BST (UK) »

Anyone have any infor re George Smith living at The Dumbles Denby on 1911 census with wife Mable and children - Harry, May, Albert, Annie & Bertha - He  is shown as a coal carter from colliery - born in Morley
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Re: George Smith - Denby 1911census
« Reply #1 on: Friday 03 July 09 19:48 BST (UK) »

do you want him researched back thru the Census years to reveal his parents and siblings ?


If so, what are the full details about him from the 1911 - age / YoB,  etc

and how old is the oldest child, & where born ?
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PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex
EVERETT - 1830, Scoles, Norfolk & Epping, SX
OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington
LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs
DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs
BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs
CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk
LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk
GOWENLOCK – Carlisle
KEW - Carlisle
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Re: George Smith - Denby 1911census
« Reply #2 on: Friday 03 July 09 19:51 BST (UK) »

ah, OK - got him in the 1901 ...

1901 - RG13/3225; Folio: 14; Page: 20 - Darley Abbey
7, New Road

 
George Smith 35  Head Carter - Cotton Mill born Morley
Mabel Smith 25  Wife born Breadsall
Harry Smith 9 months  son Morley
Eliza Smith 77  WIDOW Mother born Morley
 
 
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PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex
EVERETT - 1830, Scoles, Norfolk & Epping, SX
OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington
LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs
DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs
BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs
CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk
LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk
GOWENLOCK – Carlisle
KEW - Carlisle
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Re: George Smith - Denby 1911census
« Reply #3 on: Friday 03 July 09 19:58 BST (UK) »

possible marriage - Morley is in the District shown ..

Marriages Dec 1898   
 
Slater  Mabel     Belper  vol 7b page 1243  to   SMITH  George     
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PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex
EVERETT - 1830, Scoles, Norfolk & Epping, SX
OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington
LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs
DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs
BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs
CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk
LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk
GOWENLOCK – Carlisle
KEW - Carlisle
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Re: George Smith - Denby 1911census
« Reply #4 on: Friday 03 July 09 20:01 BST (UK) »

1881 - RG11; Piece: 3410; Folio: 21; Page: 10 - Morley
Almshouse No 5

 
Henry Smith 67  Head Farm Labourer Morley
Eliza Smith 54  Wife Charwoman do
Anne Smith 26  dau DressMaker do
George Smith 15 son Farm Servant Morley


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PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex
EVERETT - 1830, Scoles, Norfolk & Epping, SX
OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington
LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs
DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs
BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs
CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk
LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk
GOWENLOCK – Carlisle
KEW - Carlisle
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Re: George Smith - Denby 1911census
« Reply #5 on: Friday 03 July 09 20:03 BST (UK) »

Wow that was quick. Any info will be gratefully received. Would you know where I could find more info about his wives family
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Re: George Smith - Denby 1911census
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 04 July 09 05:24 BST (UK) »

Hi,

This looks like george's wife

1891
farm house Breadsall
Eliza Walker Head W 64 Farmmer Horsley
Eliza daughter U 33 Breadsall
Henry Clarke Serv U 55 farm Servant Breadsall
William lacey servant U 18 Farm Servant  Breedon leics
MABEL SLATER servant 15 General domestic servant breadsall
John Sidwell servant 14 Farm Servant overseal derbys
RG12 2726 176 15

1881
barrow hall barrow Upon trent Derbys
John T Pountain head U  major Royal Sherwood Foresters
Charlotte Slater serv U 36 housekeeper Breadsall
5 other servants
MABEL SLATER visitor 5 Breadsall
RG11 3386 110 6 (you can see fuller details free at familysearch)

so Mabel doesn't appear with parents on any census Huh?

You may want to purchase marriage cert to find name of father???

But then of course she is visiting in 1881 and there is a 36 yr old unmarried Charlotte Slater in the household- could she be mabel's mother??

I'll see what I can find

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Re: George Smith - Denby 1911census
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 04 July 09 05:30 BST (UK) »

IGI -extracted

Mabel Slater
christened 2 April 1876 breadsall
parents
joseph Slater/mary Anne

so there should be a father on the marriage cert

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Re: George Smith - Denby 1911census
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 04 July 09 05:42 BST (UK) »

It seems charlotte Slater (from 1881 census ) is Mabels Aunt

1871
Cowsley field Derbys
John Thomas Pountain Head U 28 Captain of Royal Sherwood Forester Leics Notts, land owner& wne merchant Cowsley Derbys
Ruth Yeomans grandmother W 93 Kirk hallam Derbys
CHARLOTTE SLATER servant U 26 breadsall Derbys
Clara Slater servant U 20 Chaddesden Derbys
RG10 3560 34 28
(think Clara may be a realative of Charlotte - but not sister??)

1861
Kedleston Rd Derby
Ann Thompson head W 48 Independant lady Chaddesden
George h grandson 3 Chaddesden
Hannah Flixon Neice 20 Chaddesden
CHARLOTTE SLATER House servant Breadsall
RG9 2496 49 20

1851
breadsall Moor
Elizabeth Slater head W 41 Derby
Joseph son 9 Breadsall
Charlotte daughter 6 breadsall
HO107 2141 521 5

So Mabelss father was Charlotte's sister!

I'll try to come forward with Joseph - to find mabel's siblings

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Re: George Smith - Denby 1911census
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 04 July 09 06:00 BST (UK) »

1861
breadsall
Betty Slater head W 51 laundress Derby
JOSEPH son 19 ag lab Breadsall
David James Lodger 33 mason kenilworth Warwick
Matilda Cox Lodger W 51 New Radford Notts
RG9 2494 70 7

1871
Breadsall Moor
Joseph Slater Head m 29 ag lab
Mary Ann wife 33
Charlotte daughter 7
William son 5
Elizabeth daughter 1
all b breadsall
RG10 3559 47 25

1881
can e viewed free at family search
RG11 3393 72 11
there are 2 mre children George age 9 and Louis age 8 - also a Slater family living next door

1891
breadsall Moor
Joseph Slater head W 50 Gen lab
Elizabeth daughter U 21 housekeeper Domestic
Louis son 18 coal miner
Mary granddaughter 6
Reginald Grandson 2
all b Breadsall
RG12 2726 173 9

1901
Breadsall Moor
Joseph Slater head W Lab at Coal pitbreadsall
Louis son U 28 Lab
William beardmore grandson 11 morley
John Henry Beardmore grandson 10 morley
Frederick beardmore Grandson 6 Morley
RG13 3212 197 4

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Re: George Smith - Denby 1911census
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 04 July 09 13:32 BST (UK) »

Thanks very much. I will get the certificates too
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