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fred111
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Missing Boag in 1841
« on: Friday 03 July 09 21:15 UTC (UK) »
Can anyone solve this please?
I have Thomas Boag (1786) in 1841 living with his children  John (1829) Edward (1832) and  Isabella (1827) in Westmoreland Lane, Newcastle.
His other sons, Thomas (1822) is lodging in Westgate, and and William (1822) is married to Isabella with 2 yr old Hannah in Pilgrim St.
But the family is not all accounted for.
Mary Ann (1827) is missing.
She and her sister Isabella are on the 1861 and 1871 C as servants at 13 Lovaine Place before they both married and moved away.
I am used to Boag being mistranscribed as Bray etc, but I have searched in vain for Mary Ann in 1841.
Any ideas, anyone?
Liz
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CARTER   Newcastle
CRAIG RENNIE WATSON  JAQUES & JAKES  WARDLAW TWIZZELL BRASS    NICHOLSON SUMMERVILLE ARCHER LEARMOUTH  NELLESS  ANDERSON  BOAG SLAYTER NELSON HARDY RICHARDSON CHICKEN LOWDON BROWN LAWTON Northumberland
CALVIN  DEMPSEY  LYNN     Antrim
NELLESS, YOUNGHUSBAND GREEN SCOTT DIXON Durham
PENRITH     Penrith
BANTICK HUBBARD CARTER      Suffolk
LYNN UNICK CROW ASHERCRAFT JOHNSON CRAWFORD LOWDEN   USA
jennyrob
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Re: Missing Boag in 1841
« Reply #1 on: Friday 03 July 09 21:25 UTC (UK) »
I thought I had a Broag in my family  I thought it was quite foreign
It turned out to be Broad
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Laurina
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Re: Missing Boag in 1841
« Reply #2 on: Friday 03 July 09 21:48 UTC (UK) »
This is the closest I can find. . . HO107/1162/1/1/10/12/11 - Askham, Westmorland

George Cowin 30 
Mary Capsticks 15 
Ann Boag 14  FS - not born in county
Walter Parker 15 
Ann Nixon 25 
Elizabeth Walfpeny 13 

Not a ideal choice I know

Laurina
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gortonboy
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Re: Missing Boag in 1841
« Reply #3 on: Friday 03 July 09 21:52 UTC (UK) »
how about this one ?

H0107 PIECE 818 FOLIO 25/31 PAGE26

MARY BOAG 10 B 1831 BORN NORTHUMBERLAND
LIVING AT BELFORD,NORTH BANK ON HER OWN WITH A WATSON FAMILY ?
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fred111
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Re: Missing Boag in 1841
« Reply #4 on: Friday 03 July 09 22:25 UTC (UK) »
Thanks both for your time and trouble
Westmorland seems a long way away, but I did expect her to be a servant, in view of her future occupation.
The Belford one seems a possibility, but that one is only 10 (if we are to trust the 1841 ages!)  and Mary Ann would have been 14, so noticeable more mature.
Not Sure! Huh
Liz
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CRAIG RENNIE WATSON  JAQUES & JAKES  WARDLAW TWIZZELL BRASS    NICHOLSON SUMMERVILLE ARCHER LEARMOUTH  NELLESS  ANDERSON  BOAG SLAYTER NELSON HARDY RICHARDSON CHICKEN LOWDON BROWN LAWTON Northumberland
CALVIN  DEMPSEY  LYNN     Antrim
NELLESS, YOUNGHUSBAND GREEN SCOTT DIXON Durham
PENRITH     Penrith
BANTICK HUBBARD CARTER      Suffolk
LYNN UNICK CROW ASHERCRAFT JOHNSON CRAWFORD LOWDEN   USA
gortonboy
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Re: Missing Boag in 1841
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 04 July 09 00:10 UTC (UK) »
ages on censuse are not to be trusted,,,especially in early ones,,,,i believe they were rounded up/down in the 1841,,,,will check.,,,,,,,,,,,,,in the 1841 census ages were rounded down !!!   so if you were 14,,you would have been recorded as 10 !! 
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Michael Dixon
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Re: Missing Boag in 1841
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 04 July 09 07:44 UTC (UK) »


  On 1841 census, a child aged 14 years should have been recorded as just that - 14.

The rounding down to multiple of 5 yrs was only for those aged 15 yrs and older !

So said the instructions to enumerators- which were obeyed - or not !

Michael
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JenB
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Re: Missing Boag in 1841
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 04 July 09 11:00 UTC (UK) »
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The rounding down to multiple of 5 yrs was only for those aged 15 yrs and older !

So said the instructions to enumerators- which were obeyed - or not !

Precise age seems to have been given for all the other children on that page.

The number '1' looks a bit odd - not like any of the other 1's on the page.

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otters
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Re: Missing Boag in 1841
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 04 July 09 15:23 UTC (UK) »
Hi Liz,

Could you tell me if any of your Boag family moved to Hull? I am looking for a William Wilkinson who married a Sarah Boag (Boak) in 1798 in Sutton in Holderness.
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fred111
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Re: Missing Boag in 1841
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 05 July 09 17:48 UTC (UK) »
Thank, Michael for clarifying that. That's an interesting addition to our knowlege, but I suppose there were mistakes or rounding downs done by some enumerators anyway.
I did put 'if we are to trust the 1841 ages'.
I still don't feel entirely sure.
There is no link anywhere to a Watson family.
On all the census entries which I know are right, her full name of mary Ann  is given.
Liz
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CRAIG RENNIE WATSON  JAQUES & JAKES  WARDLAW TWIZZELL BRASS    NICHOLSON SUMMERVILLE ARCHER LEARMOUTH  NELLESS  ANDERSON  BOAG SLAYTER NELSON HARDY RICHARDSON CHICKEN LOWDON BROWN LAWTON Northumberland
CALVIN  DEMPSEY  LYNN     Antrim
NELLESS, YOUNGHUSBAND GREEN SCOTT DIXON Durham
PENRITH     Penrith
BANTICK HUBBARD CARTER      Suffolk
LYNN UNICK CROW ASHERCRAFT JOHNSON CRAWFORD LOWDEN   USA
fred111
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Re: Missing Boag in 1841
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 05 July 09 18:06 UTC (UK) »
Hi Otters,
Mary Jane and her sister Isabella both moved after they were married - to North Yorkshire, But over 100 miles from Hull, and no longer called Boag.
I'll bear your Sarah in mind when I'm researching the Boag family, but I can't connect at the moment.
Meanwhile, best of luck.
Liz
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CRAIG RENNIE WATSON  JAQUES & JAKES  WARDLAW TWIZZELL BRASS    NICHOLSON SUMMERVILLE ARCHER LEARMOUTH  NELLESS  ANDERSON  BOAG SLAYTER NELSON HARDY RICHARDSON CHICKEN LOWDON BROWN LAWTON Northumberland
CALVIN  DEMPSEY  LYNN     Antrim
NELLESS, YOUNGHUSBAND GREEN SCOTT DIXON Durham
PENRITH     Penrith
BANTICK HUBBARD CARTER      Suffolk
LYNN UNICK CROW ASHERCRAFT JOHNSON CRAWFORD LOWDEN   USA
otters
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Re: Missing Boag in 1841
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 05 July 09 20:06 UTC (UK) »
Thanks for reply Liz.
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Glen in Tinsel Kni
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Re: Missing Boag in 1841
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 21 July 09 22:04 UTC (UK) »
Just to throw in an alternative spelling that cropped up for my small Boag branch in 1841, (North Shields area around 1830 onwards).

Have you tried Beag?
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fred111
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Re: Missing Boag in 1841
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 22 July 09 21:19 UTC (UK) »
One to definitely bear in mind!
Liz
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CRAIG RENNIE WATSON  JAQUES & JAKES  WARDLAW TWIZZELL BRASS    NICHOLSON SUMMERVILLE ARCHER LEARMOUTH  NELLESS  ANDERSON  BOAG SLAYTER NELSON HARDY RICHARDSON CHICKEN LOWDON BROWN LAWTON Northumberland
CALVIN  DEMPSEY  LYNN     Antrim
NELLESS, YOUNGHUSBAND GREEN SCOTT DIXON Durham
PENRITH     Penrith
BANTICK HUBBARD CARTER      Suffolk
LYNN UNICK CROW ASHERCRAFT JOHNSON CRAWFORD LOWDEN   USA
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Re: Missing Boag in 1841
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 29 July 09 14:16 UTC (UK) »
my maiden name boag

have found throughout my searches that spellings vary a lot!   So do where they live got them in Newcastle Upon Tyne, Carlisle, Northumberland and scotland.

Boag, Boage, Bogue, also seen spellings like Bog, Boch, Beag, Borg, Borgenson, etc drives me mad!

Good luck
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