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lucytuck
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St. John's Church, Abbey (Landward)
« on: Friday 03 July 09 21:26 UTC (UK) »
Does anyone know if St. John's Church, Abbey, (Landward) is still there?  I cannot find it.

My great grandparents got married there in 1873. 

What does (Landward) mean? 

Thanks for your help,
Lucy
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Re: St. John's Church, Abbey (Landward)
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 04 July 09 09:33 UTC (UK) »
I can think of two churches it may relate to, depending on whether it was a Roman Catholic marriage or a marriage according to the Banns of the Church of Scotland, but perhaps some one with more knowledge of the boundary lines would know if either of these are what you are looking for.

1. The old St John's Church on Darnley Road in Barrhead. The church was situated where the Columba Club now stands from 1841 until it was completely destroyed by fire in 1942. This was the RC church. Bits of Barrhead were in the Abbey district, but I don't know if the boundary line went as far as Darnley Road.

http://www.stjohns-barrhead.org/history/index.html

2. The Oakshaw Trinity Church in Paisley has a website explaining its history, this includes a page dedicated to the history of St John's in Paisley.  Extract from the site.


http://oakshawtrinity.org/?page_id=44

"The four churches on the hill having worked together for 3 years to ensure the success of the Wynd Centre now looked at the possibility of becoming one united Church. In 1987 a Joint Strategy Committee was created to form a draft Basis and Plan of Union. In May 1990 each of the four congregations voted on the proposal for a Union. School Wynd Congregational Church, the High Church and St. John’s Church voted to unite, but Orr Square Church voted against the Union ( later to join in 1994). In May 1991 the General Assembly of the Church of Scotland approved the Union, the new Church to be called Oakshaw Trinity Church. In August 1991 there was a service of Union in the High Church and in September 1991 the first service of Oakshaw Trinity Church was held in the St. John’s building. The congregation worshipped there until major refurbishment of the High Church building was completed and re-opened by HRH Princess Anne in 1994.

This was not to be the end of the St. John’s Church buildings as in June 2001 HRH Princess Anne reopened the building as the extension to the Wynd Centre. Externally every damaged piece of masonry was replaced and internally there was a complete redesign of the building including an additional floor incorporating a 200 seat auditorium."

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Murphyz
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Re: St. John's Church, Abbey (Landward)
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 05 July 09 16:04 UTC (UK) »
Thank you. 

The marriage certificate says "After Banns  According to the Forms of the Roman Catholic Church".  It was signed by Thomas Carlin R.C.C.  and witnessed by Alexander Thompson, Witness, and Rebecca McKinlay, Witness.  It was registered by R. Waterston, Registrar on January 2, 1874 at Paisley. 

It says the marriage took place at St. John's Church, Abbey, (Landward) on December 31, 1873.
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Re: St. John's Church, Abbey (Landward)
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 05 July 09 16:13 UTC (UK) »
Oh, Thank you.  I have clicked on your link to the St. John's Church in Barrhead -- Thomas Carlin was a priest there in 1873, so this IS the church they were married in.  Thank you so much.  As you say, it was destroyed in 1941.  I see from the link that a new church was built there in 1961.  Thank  you again,
Lucy
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