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PARKIN - VON STIEGLER
« on: Friday 03 July 09 22:13 UTC (UK) »

I am interested about any  family history or information  of VON STIEGLER, Fridolin Joseph A A  and his wife Lucy Ann PARKIN who married 1909.

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Re: PARKIN - VON STIEGLER
« Reply #1 on: Friday 03 July 09 22:21 UTC (UK) »

Hi,

Free BMD has a birth registration:

Fridolin GEA Von Stiegler   JunQ 1912   W.Derby  8b  770  (mother Parkin)



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Re: PARKIN - VON STIEGLER
« Reply #2 on: Friday 03 July 09 22:27 UTC (UK) »

Can you be more specific about what info you want - forwards from 1909 or their ancestry?

Lucy Ann is just shown as Stiegler on the 1911 index - b 1886

The marriage is on Lancs BMD  www.lancashirebmd.org.uk

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1909
 
Lucy A PARKIN  Fridolin J STIEGLER at Kirkdale, North Shore, St. Paul registers at Liverpool Ref 2016WD/3/286

Per freebmd

Births June qtr 1886 
 
Lucy Ann PARKIN West Derby  8b 335
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Re: PARKIN - VON STIEGLER
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 04 July 09 08:05 UTC (UK) »

so we have his marriage and the birth of his son Fridolin....both on freebmd....but no deaths at all for Von Stiegler....did he go back to his country of birth Huh.....allan
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Re: PARKIN - VON STIEGLER
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 04 July 09 09:38 UTC (UK) »

They went to the US in 1913. Naturalised in Philadelphia 17 June 1930.

Fridolin Joseph Anton Alexander von Stiegler born Passau Germany 19 March 1872.

3 children , one born Liverpool, two in Philadelphia
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Re: PARKIN - VON STIEGLER
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 04 July 09 09:50 UTC (UK) »

Sorry there was a mistake in the previous post.

Fridolin said that he came to the US on October 15 1907, arriving New York on the bark Calcium, and Lucy came to the US on 4 November 1913, arriving Philadelphia.
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Re: PARKIN - VON STIEGLER
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 04 July 09 09:53 UTC (UK) »

Children

Fridolin Georg Edward Anton 2 April 1908 Liverpool
Lucy Isabell May 12 August 1914 Philadelphia
William Henry 2 October 1917 Philadelphia
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Re: PARKIN - VON STIEGLER
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 04 July 09 09:59 UTC (UK) »

Lucy and Fridolin junior sailed to the US on the SS Dominion dep Liverpool Oct 22 1913. Nearest UK relative given as mother/grandmother Mary Allen, 8 Boundary St E Liverpool.
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Re: PARKIN - VON STIEGLER
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 04 July 09 10:12 UTC (UK) »

that`s a little confusing Shaun....on www.freebmd.org.uk
marriage to Lucy Ann Parkin in June Qtr 1909
birth of Fridolin George Edward Von Stiegler in Sept Qtr 1912....so the departure in 1913 would fit in,but not the 1907 one UNLESS HE WAS a merchant sailor and had 2 addresses.one in USA AND ONE IN l`pool.....very probable .....that is great research Shaun,could you please tell me where you got your info for my future research....allan Wink
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Re: PARKIN - VON STIEGLER
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 04 July 09 10:24 UTC (UK) »

Curious isn't it. In the naturalisation papers he has his marriage date as August 14 1907 and young Fridolin's dob as 2 April 1908.
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Re: PARKIN - VON STIEGLER
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 04 July 09 11:15 UTC (UK) »

Fridolin junior is shown as aged 2 on the 1913 passenger manifest.
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Re: PARKIN - VON STIEGLER
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 04 July 09 12:03 UTC (UK) »

1901 Sandhills, Kirkdale, Liverpool

Peculiar this in the way that it is enumerated:

151 Derby Road:

James Allan m head 58 carter miner & porter Yorkshire Dent

153 Derby Road:

Mary A do  m wife 38  Lancs St Helens
James do son 14  Liverpool
Florrie do  daur 4  do
Ethel do daur 2  do
Lucy Parkin stepdaur 14  do
 
RG13/3471/195/45
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Crane - Liverpool c.1805
Thornton - Liverpool c.1805
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Re: PARKIN - VON STIEGLER
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 04 July 09 18:24 UTC (UK) »

Hiya Shaun...thats on the Dock Rd.........allan
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Re: PARKIN - VON STIEGLER
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 04 July 09 18:56 UTC (UK) »

Thank you all for the various entries  re: ALLAN/ ALLEN/ PARKIN/VON STIEGLER
If there is any ancestry information about  these  Families prior to 1900's,  I would be happy to hear.. Sounds like the PARKINS were a Lancashire bunch. I wonder when Fridolon Von Stiegler senior arrived from Germany and if he arrived with kin???

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Re: PARKIN - VON STIEGLER
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 04 July 09 19:33 UTC (UK) »


Quote
...thats on the Dock Rd.........

Derby Road is the next one up from the Dock Road (Regent Road)

 http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=1R2GGIT_en-GB&q=151%20derby%20road%20liverpool&lr=&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl
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Crane - Liverpool c.1805
Thornton - Liverpool c.1805
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Hollis - Northampton - 1774
Potter - Leicester - c.1775
Cresswell - c 1780
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