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suzard
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Lucy would make 8 children -she wasn't born until after 1851 census
62 would be age given by informant
check it out on freeBMD
here we are 1851 - name written as Nott - too lazy to put full name i expect!!!
Warden lane Warden Bedds
William Nott head M 45 ag lab Hawnes beds
Mary wife 43 Blunham
James son 19 ag lab Hawnes
William son 17 ag lab hawnes
Charles son 15 Jockey Hawnes
Ann daughter 12 Straw Plaiter hawnes
Thomas son 10 ag lab Hawnes
Emma daughter 8 Straw Plaiter hawnes
John son 1 Warden
William Bones Lodger U 40 ag lab Warden
HO107 1753 642 12
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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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suzard
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by the way 47 isn't unusual for a woman to have a child - my Gran had her first child when she was 17 and her last (my Dad) when she was 47 -all with the same husband who was a lot older than her (he was 66 when Dad was born) - I think it was too much fresh food and fresh air- and a glass of ale instead of a cup of tea!!!!
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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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suzard
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By the way - you missed out Thomas and Emma
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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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smunn02
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Ah good!
Thank you very much, have updated everyone as appropriate - you're a wonderful mine of information in a field where I'm a mere newborn!
I've finally got round to adding James' death source too, so now I'm happy with the sheer volume of documentation for him!
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suzard
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you need to check the birth years on Free BMD (post Sept qtr 1837) to have a more accurate picture
If yu can find the baptisms of the children you may find they had siblings who died in infancy -it wasn't unusual if a chld died to name alater child after them
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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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smunn02
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I've done some digging on the two pubs James Nottingham ran and have come across some interesting info in historical records.
The 1871 Census shows James as a Labourer living in the Old Sugar Loaf in Upper Caldicote, and it was suggested that maybe Elizabeth was running it. However thanks to the document GK35/7: "conveyance of "dilapidated" cottages by Alfred White to William Field of Biggleswade, carpenter for £50: 1859;"; I've discovered that the Old Sugar Loaf was actually still being completed in 1871 by carpenter William Field, and James & Elizabeth were living 'on site' - James was labouring to help complete the pub!
He was given the first lease granted, listed as "since one year past" in 1872 (HF143/1: Register of Alehouse Licences - Biggleswade Petty Sessional Division: 1872-1873;)
However in the 1881 Census he is still listed by profession as the beerhousekeeper - in 1878 the licence + lease actually went to his eldest son, Joseph (- HF143/3: Register of Alehouse Licences - Biggleswade Petty Sessional Division: 1878-1881) who ran the pub until 1886 when a James Marshall took over (HF143/4: Register of Alehouse Licences - Biggleswade Petty Sessional Division: 1882-1890;).
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smunn02
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Regarding James' second pub - The Rose & Crown; searching through similar records has helped also.
In 1899 the property was described as the Rose & Crown (formerly Rose), with yards, orchards, stables, barns, sheds and outbuildings ["This does not appear to belong to the Vendors & is not in the particulars of Sale"] and land in Upper Caldecote of 2a 1r 18p adjoining Rose & Crown and all in occupation of James Nottingham. (Z1039/34/2a: conveyance of licensed premises from Wells & Company to Wells & Winch: 1899;)
The Nottingham's ran the pub from 1886-1911 inclusive;
1886-1904: James Nottingham; until his retirement (HF143/5: Register of Alehouse Licences - Biggleswade Petty Sessional Division: 1891-1900; HF143/6: Register of Alehouse Licences - Biggleswade Petty Sessional Division: 1900-1914;)
1904-1908: his son Joseph Nottingham; (HF143/6: Register of Alehouse Licences - Biggleswade Petty Sessional Division: 1900-1914;)
1908-1911: On the death of Joseph, his widow Martha Nottingham; (HF143/6: Register of Alehouse Licences - Biggleswade Petty Sessional Division: 1900-1914;) when in 1911 it left the family for good...
possibly due to her death but I have no sources for Martha's death.
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smunn02
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 The former Old Sugar Loaf (closed as a beerhouse in 1957)
 The former Rose & Crown (demolished 2003)
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