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Cannie lad
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GOODWIN (Bucks) anyone?
« on: Saturday 04 July 09 18:17 BST (UK) »
My father's family came from Buckinghamshire with Goodwin on the male side and Ridgley on the female side.  I have gathered a lot of information on the Ridgley side but have hit a very early brick wall as far as the Goodwin family is concerned.  The furthest back I can get to is Charles George Goodwin, baptised 27 April 1830 in Eton.  His father is shown on the certificate as George Goodwin together with his wife Rebecca.  Then on 12 January 1852 Charles married Emma Ridgley at Farham Royal and his father, now shown as John George Goodwin, is a witness.  In both cases the father is shown as a "Servant".  I can trace the son, Charles George from the age of 11 indentured in Chipping Wycombe, through his trade as a chair maker, to his death in Newcastle-on-Tyne in 1913.  No amount of searching has traced George, or John George, Goodwin or his wife Rebecca. 
Can anyone help?  Any suggestions warmly appreciated.
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Goodwin - Buckinghamshire/Newcastle-on-Tyne area
Ridgley - Buckinghamshire
Haddow - Lanark, Scotland/Newcastle
CaroleW
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Re: Goodwin (Bucks) anyone?
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 04 July 09 18:57 BST (UK) »
Hi

Can I just clarify something

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and his father, now shown as John George Goodwin, is a witness.  In both cases the father is shown as a "Servant".

I am assuming that the name John George Goodwin also appears in the "fathers name" box as well as the witness signature  which means he was alive in 1852
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Cannie lad
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Re: Goodwin (Bucks) anyone?
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 04 July 09 19:47 BST (UK) »
Hello Carole
On the wedding certificate from 12 Jan 1852 in the Father's Name and Signature box it has "John George Goodwin" - and the Father's Profession shows "Servant".  In the earlier 1830 baptism certificate, the Parents names are shown as George (no John mentioned) and Rebecca Goodwin and the Profession is "Servant"
Thanks for the interest.
Jack
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Goodwin - Buckinghamshire/Newcastle-on-Tyne area
Ridgley - Buckinghamshire
Haddow - Lanark, Scotland/Newcastle
jillruss
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Re: Goodwin (Bucks) anyone?
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 04 July 09 19:58 BST (UK) »
Probably something you're already aware of, but watch out for spelling variations.

I have Godwins from Eton in my tree. Admittedly, they're a lot further back in time when names were written down as they were heard (early 1700s) but I have seen them as Goodwin as well as Godden, Godin and all sorts of strange concoctions.

Jill
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Major brickwalls:
John Frith mge to Fanny, Bucks? c 1798
Bathsheba Boothroyd bp W Yks c1802
John Bishop bp E Yks c1758
Joseph Symonds mg to Sarah, prob Berks c 1735-40
John Horwood mg to Martha, Berks c 1735-40
Sarah Sculler bp  Berks area c 1675
Paul Phillips bp  Berks/Bucks c 1720
William Newell bp Berks/Bucks/Oxon c 1765
Richard Troughton mg to Jane, Westmoreland c 1732
Mary Simon bp Shrops c.1795
Cannie lad
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Re: GOODWIN (Bucks) anyone?
« Reply #4 on: Monday 06 July 09 16:06 BST (UK) »
Thanks, Jill, but I've covered every variation I can think of.  I have the 1851 Census for Bucks on CD via the Buckinghamshire FHS and they don't appear there in any name variation despite John George Goodwin being a witness at his son's wedding in Farnham Royal, a year later.  I can find a John and Rebecca Goodwin in the 1841 census for Sutton, Gloucestershire but that John is an Ag.Lab although his age of 45 would be appropriate in this instance.
I've wondered if John George Goodwin lived abroad in his capacity as a servant as I've only found, so far, two instances of him being in Buckinghamshire, as related above.

Jack
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Goodwin - Buckinghamshire/Newcastle-on-Tyne area
Ridgley - Buckinghamshire
Haddow - Lanark, Scotland/Newcastle
jillruss
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Re: GOODWIN (Bucks) anyone?
« Reply #5 on: Monday 06 July 09 17:01 BST (UK) »
Another thought (sorry if I'm covering stuff you've already thought of).

As Eton is literally just a walk over the Thames from Windsor, is it possible that your chap was living in Windsor at the time - and so wouldn't show up on the Bucks census?

Jill
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See Surname Interests Table +
Major brickwalls:
John Frith mge to Fanny, Bucks? c 1798
Bathsheba Boothroyd bp W Yks c1802
John Bishop bp E Yks c1758
Joseph Symonds mg to Sarah, prob Berks c 1735-40
John Horwood mg to Martha, Berks c 1735-40
Sarah Sculler bp  Berks area c 1675
Paul Phillips bp  Berks/Bucks c 1720
William Newell bp Berks/Bucks/Oxon c 1765
Richard Troughton mg to Jane, Westmoreland c 1732
Mary Simon bp Shrops c.1795
Cannie lad
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Re: GOODWIN (Bucks) anyone?
« Reply #6 on: Monday 06 July 09 18:37 BST (UK) »
Good thinking Jill as that hadn't occurred to me.  I'll check on Berkshire sites now.
Thanks

Jack
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jillruss
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Re: GOODWIN (Bucks) anyone?
« Reply #7 on: Monday 06 July 09 18:56 BST (UK) »
Another thought - I'll have to stop or I'll blow a fuse!!

Could he have been a servant at Windsor Castle?

Jill
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See Surname Interests Table +
Major brickwalls:
John Frith mge to Fanny, Bucks? c 1798
Bathsheba Boothroyd bp W Yks c1802
John Bishop bp E Yks c1758
Joseph Symonds mg to Sarah, prob Berks c 1735-40
John Horwood mg to Martha, Berks c 1735-40
Sarah Sculler bp  Berks area c 1675
Paul Phillips bp  Berks/Bucks c 1720
William Newell bp Berks/Bucks/Oxon c 1765
Richard Troughton mg to Jane, Westmoreland c 1732
Mary Simon bp Shrops c.1795
Cannie lad
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Re: GOODWIN (Bucks) anyone?
« Reply #8 on: Monday 06 July 09 19:11 BST (UK) »
Now that is something Jill.  Keep going and I'll buy any fuses!  I've done a very quick check on one census year but just got the same results as before but I think I might have to get the Berks. FHS CD for the 1851 census in order to concentrate a search.  Do you reckon Windsor Castle will be listed with all occupants?
Thanks again

Jack
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Goodwin - Buckinghamshire/Newcastle-on-Tyne area
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Haddow - Lanark, Scotland/Newcastle
jillruss
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Re: GOODWIN (Bucks) anyone?
« Reply #9 on: Monday 06 July 09 22:08 BST (UK) »
I would have thought so.

Why don't you post a look up request on the Berks Board for an 1851 census look up before you start forking out good money - I might have sent you on a wild goose chase!!  Roll Eyes

Jill
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See Surname Interests Table +
Major brickwalls:
John Frith mge to Fanny, Bucks? c 1798
Bathsheba Boothroyd bp W Yks c1802
John Bishop bp E Yks c1758
Joseph Symonds mg to Sarah, prob Berks c 1735-40
John Horwood mg to Martha, Berks c 1735-40
Sarah Sculler bp  Berks area c 1675
Paul Phillips bp  Berks/Bucks c 1720
William Newell bp Berks/Bucks/Oxon c 1765
Richard Troughton mg to Jane, Westmoreland c 1732
Mary Simon bp Shrops c.1795
ANYAS
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Re: GOODWIN (Bucks) anyone?
« Reply #10 on: Monday 06 July 09 23:22 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Don't know if this is of any help but there is a John GOODWIN, Servant, Quainton, on the Bucks Posse Comitatus.

Regards,
ANYAS 
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Cannie lad
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Re: GOODWIN (Bucks) anyone?
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 07 July 09 16:25 BST (UK) »
Jill
Will do and I'll let you know of any result.  Thanks again.

Jack
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Cannie lad
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Re: GOODWIN (Bucks) anyone?
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 07 July 09 16:33 BST (UK) »
Anyas
Thanks for that.  I made a search and was able to download the Posse Comitatus from this link:
http://www.bucksinfo.net/brs/online-volumes/volumes-20-22/
It's a wonderful document and will be of great interest to look through.  I found the John Goodwin - servant and this is the first piece of additional information I've found to date.  Hopefully, this might be the man I'm looking for but obviously, I need to make further efforts to confirm this.
Many thanks indeed.

Jack
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