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lucytuck
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Eleanor Williams - Porthmadog
« on: Saturday 04 July 09 23:21 UTC (UK) »
Eleanor Williams was born about 1843 in Portmadoc.  Her mother, Ann, was born in Carnavon in 1814.  Ann married John Williams, who was born in Liverpool and was a warehouseman.  They had a daughter Jane, born in Liverpool in 1939, and then had Eleanor in Portmadoc in 1843.  They then had a son, John, born in Liverpool in 1851.

Eleanor married Robert Lee Moore on 12/22/1867 at Church of St. Peter in Burnley, England. 

I am trying to find out Eleanor's mother's maiden name and family history.  If you can help, I would appreciate it.
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CaroleW
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Re: Eleanor
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 04 July 09 23:37 UTC (UK) »
Hi

The only sure way is via one of their childrens birth certs but with a surname like Williams you are left with multiple choices for births - particularly with christian names like Jane and William

Your best bet is Eleanor but again - there are more than one possible

Pwllheli was the registration district for Portmadoc but there are 4 possible births - 2 in 1842 and 2 in 1843

This is the best I can offer

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The charge is £7 for action on the first entry, which includes the cost of the certificate, and £3 for checking each subsequent reference against the information you have provided.   You have the option of asking them to either stop at the first reference which agrees with your information or to check all references

You must give them one piece of information that you are sure will appear on the certificate for example,  the exact date of the event or a parent(s) name(s). You must fill in the reference checking sheet which is accessed by pressing the reference checking button near the bottom of the page,  and fill in all the fields that you would like the entry to be checked against before you press the 'Submit' button. A certificate will only be issued if the entry they check matches the checking point you give them
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Re: Eleanor
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 04 July 09 23:58 UTC (UK) »
On the English census in 1851, Eleanor is listed as the daughter of John and Ann Williams.  Ann was born in Cornuevon, and Eleanor was listed as born in Portmadoc in 1843 (she was listed on the census as being 8 years old on the 1851 census and 18 years old on the 1861 census. 

I am planning to go to Portmadoc this week.  Can I look at these 4 births? Where would I go?

Thanks for the information lead....
Lucy
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CaroleW
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Re: Eleanor
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 05 July 09 00:12 UTC (UK) »
Hi

You cannot lookup births found on freebmd.  The references on freebmd are only applicable to the GRO at Southport - not to local registry offices who have their own unique reference.

The censuses were taken as follows:

1851 - 30th March
1861 - 7th April

If she was 8yrs by the 30th March 1851 she could have been born between 31st March 1842 and 29th March 1843 which cuts it down to 2 possibles

Births December qtr 1842 

WILLIAMS  Eleanor     Pwllheli  27 349   

Births March qtr 1843 

Williams  Eleanor     Pwllheli  27 381
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Re: Eleanor Williams - and Ann (her mother)
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 05 July 09 17:37 UTC (UK) »
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CaroleW.,
Thank you so much.  I am going there this week, and I will try to find out which one it is, and what her mother's maiden name was, so I can trace her ancestry.   

Lucy
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