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henery
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Madge? Winfield Family Tree.
« on: Wednesday 08 July 09 14:37 UTC (UK) »

Hello again everyone.
I have a family request for information on a Madge Winfield.
Again the info is rather vague and I don't know whether you can help.
She was the Aunt of a relative who only remembers her as Madge.
I have traced the Family Tree as far as 1911 but she is not listed anywhere.
The head of the family was :- Samuel Winfield his wife Annie Winfield.
Census 1911 indicates that by then they had 9 children, but no Madge.
It is believed she may have been born later but I have had no luck with Freebmd.
The last known address is Holmewood near Chesterfield.
Sorry about the sparse info.
Hope you can help.
Henery
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Re: Madge? Winfield Family Tree.
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 08 July 09 14:42 UTC (UK) »

Madge will be a nickname for possibly Margaret or another such name
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Re: Madge? Winfield Family Tree.
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 08 July 09 14:43 UTC (UK) »

Hi,

Madge is very likely to be an abbreviation, possibly of Marjory or Margaret. Were there any children of that name? Roughly when would she have been born?

Jen
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Re: Madge? Winfield Family Tree.
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 08 July 09 14:46 UTC (UK) »

I see 1911 has a Dinah Margery Winfield, aged 3 in Shardlow, Derbyshire. Could that have been her?
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Re: Madge? Winfield Family Tree.
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 08 July 09 15:39 UTC (UK) »

Hi genjen
Thanks for your prompt response.
Madge was believed to be born after 1911. After the birth of a Emma in 1911.
No children with the name Marjorie or Margaret have been identified in my previous investigations.
Dinah Margery sounds promising. I need to find out where Shardlow is.
I do know that the family seemed to have strong connections to places called  Kimberley in Notts and Awsworth or Pilsley in Derbyshire.

Henery
p.s. A Dinah Margery is not listed with the family in 1911 census.
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Re: Madge? Winfield Family Tree.
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 08 July 09 15:51 UTC (UK) »

There are birth registrations in the name of Marjorie/Margery Winfield in Derbyshire between 1911 and 1920. Do you know what her mother's maiden name was? Or the names and ages of any of Madge's siblings?
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Re: Madge? Winfield Family Tree.
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 08 July 09 16:10 UTC (UK) »

How long had Samuel and Annie been married by 1911 - and where were they living (is this where the Chesterfield address comes from - I see Emma's birth was registered in Chesterfield RD in 1911)?

If we can trace their marriage then a search of birth registrations cross-referenced by mother's maiden name may be fruitful.

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Re: Madge? Winfield Family Tree.
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 08 July 09 16:17 UTC (UK) »

Do you know anything about Madge's later life?

Whom (if anybody) did she marry?

Where & when & in what name did she die?

There may be routes to finding her full given name(s) and perhaps identifying a date of birth from the death registration index.

Anna
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Re: Madge? Winfield Family Tree.
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 08 July 09 18:18 UTC (UK) »

genjen sorry for delay.
Madge's mother was Anne Towle B1876.
Wed Samuel Winfield 1896.
Siblings were:- William  B1897
                       Samuel  B1896
                       John      B1900
                       Harold   B1901
                       Thomas B1903
                       Albert     B1905
                       Beatrice B1907
                       Amos     B1909
                       Emma    B1911 
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Re: Madge? Winfield Family Tree.
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 08 July 09 18:24 UTC (UK) »

Hello avm228
Mother married for 15 years by 1911.
Am making enquiries about any possible marriage but I am not hopeful.

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Re: Madge? Winfield Family Tree.
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 08 July 09 19:11 UTC (UK) »

Three more Winfield births with mother's maiden name Towle

Sep 1912 Chesterfield 7b/1559 - Elizabeth A

Jun 1916          "           7b/1360 - Frank V

Sep 1920       Derby      7b/1183 - Annie M.
                                                     ( could this one be Madge?)

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Re: Madge? Winfield Family Tree.
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 08 July 09 20:05 UTC (UK) »

Three more Winfield births with mother's maiden name Towle

Sep 1912 Chesterfield 7b/1559 - Elizabeth A

Jun 1916          "           7b/1360 - Frank V

Sep 1920       Derby      7b/1183 - Annie M.
                                                     ( could this one be Madge?)


I wondered that but would be a little wary of the Derby birth given this marriage of a different Winfield/Towle couple:

Marriage Sep qtr 1915

Towle  Caroline E  (Winfield)   
Winfield  Samuel  (Towle)

Derby  7b 1449
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London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)
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Re: Madge? Winfield Family Tree.
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 08 July 09 20:28 UTC (UK) »

Hello All……. Smiley

From the Derbyshire registrars index;

SAMUEL WINFIELD married ANNIE TOWLE – 1896 at Babbington Chapel (Awsworth) Nottinghamshire.

FreeBMD
Marriages SepQ 1896   
Towle  Annie     Basford  7b 354   
WINFIELD  Samuel     Basford  7b 354   

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Re: Madge? Winfield Family Tree.
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 08 July 09 22:04 UTC (UK) »

Three more Winfield births with mother's maiden name Towle

Sep 1912 Chesterfield 7b/1559 - Elizabeth A

Jun 1916          "           7b/1360 - Frank V

Sep 1920       Derby      7b/1183 - Annie M.
                                                     ( could this one be Madge?)


I wondered that but would be a little wary of the Derby birth given this marriage of a different Winfield/Towle couple:

Marriage Sep qtr 1915

Towle  Caroline E  (Winfield)   
Winfield  Samuel  (Towle)

Derby  7b 1449


Ah - well spotted! It did seem to be an awfully long time after Samuel and Annie's marriage as well. Unless that is the same Samuel - marrying another Towle bride??
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Re: Madge? Winfield Family Tree.
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 09 July 09 07:12 UTC (UK) »


Ah - well spotted! It did seem to be an awfully long time after Samuel and Annie's marriage as well. Unless that is the same Samuel - marrying another Towle bride??

Yes, I wonder whether this is a re-marriage of the same Samuel.  There is this death of an Annie of about the right age:

Death Jun qtr 1916 

Annie TOWLE WINFIELD aged 43

Derby 7b 680


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London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)
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