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happylady
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OWEN family
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Would it be possible, please, for someone to look for Richard and Catherine Owen in the Llangwyllog area in the 1871 and 1891 censuses - or, indeed, any other records? I have them on the 81 census with children John (b1870 in Ceidio), Mary (1875 in Llanfihangel) and Richard (1880 in Llangwyllog) with an address of 'Bodwin,' and the same couple (no children) on the 1911 listed at Bryn Goronwy, Brynteg P.O. (is this Post Office?), in the parish of Llanfair Mathafarn Eithaf. He is shown as aged 72, an employer/farmer, who has had 5 children and that he was born in Llangwyllog. I am really interested in the John Owen, b 1870, and have been chasing him for years. Am now working on a hunch that the family used the naming patterns that were common at the time. In 1901 I have John, with his wife and children, in south Wales. On that census, he gives his birth place as Llanerchymedd, as he does on the 1911 census also. Would he have put that if he had been born in Ceidio? Any info would be very gratefully received.
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danuslave
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Hi happylady
Welcome to RootsChat.
Can you give us the names of John's wife and children so that we know who we are looking for.
Thanks
Linda
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danuslave
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I've found a John Owen b 1870 in Llanerchymedd in the 1881 census as a boarder at 27 Church St, Beaumaris the home of Richard Lloyd who is a Calvanistic Methodist Minister. There are 3 other boarders listed, ages 11-14, and all described as scholars.
The reference is RG11; Piece: 5572; Folio: 69; Page: 7
Linda
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danuslave
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There is a small village called Ceidio about a mile north of Llanerchymedd, and the 1881 census does say Anglesea (sic), Ceidio not Caernarvon, Ceidio which is the one near Pwllheli.
So using Llanerchymedd in the later census returns seems quite reasonable.
Linda
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happylady
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To Linda and Heywood - Thank you SO much for your interest. To answer your questions -
John Owen (b.1870) married Mary Elizabeth Jones (b.either 1872,3 or 4 in Festiniog) but I haven't been able to discover a marriage for them. If only, then I think my problem would be solved. I did get one cert. for Sept. 1890, but it was wrong (claimed by someone on another list.) Their children were Richard (1894), Anne Ellen (1896), William (1897), John David (1900) and Kate Mary (1904) - my grandmother. I have her birth certificate and even that has an error because Mary gave her maiden name as also being Owen. I even contacted the ONS registrar who, in turn, contacted the local register office in Pontypridd, who confirmed that Mary had given her maiden name as Owen. However, I do know that the family I have on the 1901 and 1911 censuses in Tonypandy are the right ones, as I was lucky enough to know 4 of the 5 'children.'
(Incidentally, Linda, I also wondered about the John Owen boarding at Church Street, Beaumaris, in 1881 and I guess it could still be him.)
I, too, have wondered about the David Owen shown as brother in law on the 1901. Don't know why he is shown as Owen, though, as I think this was Mary's brother, which would mean he was a Jones. We'll probably never know.
Heywood - can I ask you, please, where is the Parc Ga* you identified?
Again, very many thanks for your interest. I always think everything helps to build up a picture. This avenue (seeking Richard and Catherine) is because of my idea about using the naming pattern. I could be wrong, of course. If only I could find the marriage of John Owen and Mary Jones, it might answer questions - so long as they told the truth!
Dianne (born Tonyrefail, now in Somerset)
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There is a much earlier one too but as happylady has said- Owens/Jones is very hard 