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louisa maud
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ROBERT T WAYLEIN COMPLETED
« on: Thursday 09 July 09 16:26 UTC (UK) »

Robert T Waylein travelled to USA aboard Presdent Roosevelt departing Southampton on 05/04/1924,  aged 29, alone although he had a wife and family here, no deaths found for me to think otherwise as yet,  he was shown as a labourer, I cannot find his return to England, any ideas please

Yours in anticipation

Louisa Maud
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Garner, Marylebone, Paddington,  Northolt, Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Parkinson St Pancras,
Lethbridge, Paddington, Slough
Jenkins Marylebone, Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone, Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington,
Bragg Lambeth, 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent, Canada (Toronto)
Coveney, Kent, Lambeth
Sondes, Kent
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Re: ROBERT T WAYLEIN
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 09 July 09 17:22 UTC (UK) »

From that passenger list for the President Roosevelt, Robert was a US citizen born Boston, Mass. on 29 Aug. 1894 and living at 67 Marion Street, Lynn, Mass. 

It looks like he remained in the US.  There is a WWII Draft Registration Card for Robert Thedore Waylein born 29 Aug 1894 in Roxbury, Mass.  He was living at 84 Summer St. in Lynn.  The person who would always know his address was Sarah Ferguson, 12 Waitt St. of Lynn.  The index finger of his left hand was missing.  I can see him on a number of passenger lists from 1944-1947 where he was employed on the ships.  The Social Security Death Index says he died Sep. 1971 & his last residence was Wakefield, Middlesex Co., Mass.  The Massachusetts death index says Robert J. Waylein died 18 Sep. 1971 in Melrose.
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Re: ROBERT T WAYLEIN
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 09 July 09 17:58 UTC (UK) »

That is interesting, Unless we have a different Robert Waylein the one I am concerned with  married in 1918 in St Pancras England, strange thing is my mother knew his wife but never mentioned him
The address he gave in the details aboard was where my mother's cousin lived, now I am completely baffled
Louisa Maud
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Garner, Marylebone, Paddington,  Northolt, Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Parkinson St Pancras,
Lethbridge, Paddington, Slough
Jenkins Marylebone, Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone, Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington,
Bragg Lambeth, 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent, Canada (Toronto)
Coveney, Kent, Lambeth
Sondes, Kent
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Re: ROBERT T WAYLEIN
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 09 July 09 18:14 UTC (UK) »

In the 1930 Census, there's a Robert Waylein in Lynn, Massachusetts.  He's age 35, married, b. Massachusetts, father b. New York, mother b. Canada, in the insurance business, age at 1st marriage was 22.  His mother is listed as Margaret Hanlon, a 57 yr. old widow born in Canada.  There is also a John Hanlon, son of Margaret, age 20, b. Canada, and Jeanette Waylein, daughter of Margaret Hanlon, age 33, single, b. New York.

If that's a possible match, here's a post that seems to refer to this family:  http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/surnames.hanlon/254.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx
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Re: ROBERT T WAYLEIN
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 09 July 09 18:59 UTC (UK) »

Thank you, I have emailed the person concerned but I am intrigued as to why Robert should return to USA when he had a family here, looks like 3 children were left behind

regards

Louisa Maud
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Garner, Marylebone, Paddington,  Northolt, Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Parkinson St Pancras,
Lethbridge, Paddington, Slough
Jenkins Marylebone, Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone, Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington,
Bragg Lambeth, 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent, Canada (Toronto)
Coveney, Kent, Lambeth
Sondes, Kent
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Re: ROBERT T WAYLEIN
« Reply #5 on: Friday 10 July 09 09:43 UTC (UK) »

Hi Shellyesq
I have delved a bit further to find his wife died in England, I wonder who he married in USA, for him to do so I presume he would need to get e divorce here, he and his wife had a child born the year he sailed away back to USA, intriguing isn't it?
I wonder if he is on 1921 census, but he should have been in England then, the plot deepends
I hope the person I contacted will come back to me, we can hopefully swap details

regards

Louisa Maud
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Garner, Marylebone, Paddington,  Northolt, Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Parkinson St Pancras,
Lethbridge, Paddington, Slough
Jenkins Marylebone, Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone, Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington,
Bragg Lambeth, 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent, Canada (Toronto)
Coveney, Kent, Lambeth
Sondes, Kent
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Re: ROBERT T WAYLEIN
« Reply #6 on: Friday 10 July 09 11:35 UTC (UK) »

I didn't see any likely matches for him in the US for 1920. 

When did his wife die?  Maybe he wasn't in touch with his family in England and wasn't informed that she died, so just went on assuming that he was married.  I guess there could be any number of scenarios here - hopefully, someone has the answer.

You could try to get his obituary and see if there are any clues there.  You could try contacting the Lynn library (although it says they charge for genealogical research):  http://www.noblenet.org/lynn/reference.html  Otherwise, it looks like www.raogk.org might have some look-up volunteers in the area.
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Re: ROBERT T WAYLEIN
« Reply #7 on: Friday 10 July 09 12:09 UTC (UK) »

His  wife died in 1971 in England, she obviously didn't marry again, she died the same place as her son died, if there was a marriage in England and if  he married again in USA one would have thought there would have been a divorce, I have looked at the National archives and can't see a divorce but it may be to early as I know some details are kept secret for years, I hope I am around long enough to find out

Thank you very much for your impute, it has been very kind of you to help

Best regards

Louisa Maud
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Garner, Marylebone, Paddington,  Northolt, Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Parkinson St Pancras,
Lethbridge, Paddington, Slough
Jenkins Marylebone, Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone, Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington,
Bragg Lambeth, 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent, Canada (Toronto)
Coveney, Kent, Lambeth
Sondes, Kent
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Re: ROBERT T WAYLEIN
« Reply #8 on: Friday 10 July 09 12:34 UTC (UK) »

If she didn't remarry, I would think the most likely explanation was that Robert was still legally married to her, even though he left England, so that's why he was listed as married in the census.  He didn't have a wife living with him in the 1930 Census and the "person who would always know his address" listed on the WWII Draft Registration Card had a different surname and address.

The 1940 US Census comes out in 2012, so hopefully we'll all be around for that and get some more answers.   Smiley
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Re: ROBERT T WAYLEIN
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 15 July 09 14:01 UTC (UK) »

He appears to have been in the Canadian army in WWI (just as Robert Waylein)
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/cef/001042-100.01-e.php

I would guess that he was in the UK as a soldier, returned to the US in 1924 (separated from his wife but not divorced? Intended for her to join him in the US but she refused? Simply lost contact? Who knows).

Oddly, I see three children for him and his wife in London - and one for a Waylein/Bullen couple in 1919 in Sussex...  Huh
These are the only people by that surname on freebmd.
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Re: ROBERT T WAYLEIN
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 15 July 09 21:06 UTC (UK) »

Thank you for that Jorose, it makes interesting reading, it is a very unusual surname

regards

Louisa Maud
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Garner, Marylebone, Paddington,  Northolt, Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Parkinson St Pancras,
Lethbridge, Paddington, Slough
Jenkins Marylebone, Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone, Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington,
Bragg Lambeth, 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent, Canada (Toronto)
Coveney, Kent, Lambeth
Sondes, Kent
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