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rjohn
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I am trying to find a Frank Jackson b.May 8, 1855, Canada. I do not know where, just in Canada. Came to the U.S. in 1876, according to a 1900 census. His name on a U.S. census is Harlon. So maybe Harlon Frank, or Frank Harlon. Later Harlon was Hiriam, may have been a mix up? I really do not know anything about him before 1900. Our family does not know where he really came from other than the older ones said he was from Canada. He may have been an orphan.Or maybe he was wanted. He may have had a sister Charlotte, but really no clue as to that. A mystery of his identity that I can't find before he married my great grandmother. I can not seem to find anything. Does anyone know where or how to look in Canada? He was a horse trader in 1900 in U.S. If I could find who his parents were(death certificate says parents unknown).
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charlotteCH
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Hirjohn and welcome to roostchat 
May I ask where you learned the birth date of 8 May 1855 for your man?
Canadian records are kept by Province so searching means going thru each Province... slow business as far as I have experience.
If the death cert says "parents unknown" it would seem to me that the infomant about the death just didn't know. Does the name of the infomant mean anything to you? Was he a relative? Where did the death occur?
There are many uncertainties in what you tell us... how do you conclude that the surnames, Jackson, Harlon and Hiriam refer to the same man?  I'm trying to understand how all this fits together so can suggest a line of action.
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HARGREAVES, HANSON, BAILEY, BURTON, HEWITT, JAGGER, LOCKWOOD, UTTLEY, RUDD, TAYLOR, HOLDEN, SHAW Halifax / Sowerby/ Southowram 18C+
GILL, Accrington, Blackburn, West Derby, Lancs, migrated USA 1891 to RI: GILL in SC: HOTCHKISS in RI: PELOQUIN in RI
HUMPHRIES, HILLIER, ALLEN, LYDBURY Nunney/Frome 18-19C
HUMPHRIES, JOYCE, HEWITT, ROBINSON, McMULLEN, SUFFEL, CARNEY, MARRON, COMPTON, FREEMAN Ont. Canada 1830+
PILSEN, Sask.
82nd Regt of Foot 1808-1825 1st WRY Militia 1780-1800
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Jacquie in Canada
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Charlotte, I think rjohn meant that Harlon and Hiriam were given names used by Frank, not surnames.
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Canada: Patterson, Brown, Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Johnston(e), Gorsuch, Kitchin/Kitchen United States: Patterson, Smith, Brown, Vance, Bower(s), Newberry, Best, Love, Gorsuch England (Northumberland): Brown, Whitfield, Henderson Scotland (Glasgow, Edinburgh, Fife, East Lothian): Johnston(e), Bell, Galloway, Campbell, Robertson, Williamson, Thomson, Crawford Germans from Russia: Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Meach, Lorenz
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charlotteCH
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Ok Jacquie, I read it incorrectly 
charlotte
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HARGREAVES, HANSON, BAILEY, BURTON, HEWITT, JAGGER, LOCKWOOD, UTTLEY, RUDD, TAYLOR, HOLDEN, SHAW Halifax / Sowerby/ Southowram 18C+
GILL, Accrington, Blackburn, West Derby, Lancs, migrated USA 1891 to RI: GILL in SC: HOTCHKISS in RI: PELOQUIN in RI
HUMPHRIES, HILLIER, ALLEN, LYDBURY Nunney/Frome 18-19C
HUMPHRIES, JOYCE, HEWITT, ROBINSON, McMULLEN, SUFFEL, CARNEY, MARRON, COMPTON, FREEMAN Ont. Canada 1830+
PILSEN, Sask.
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Lisaw
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Hi John,
There is a Frank Jackson born abt 1854 with a sister named Charlotte on the 1861 census for the township of York, county of York. Mother is just given as Mrs Jackson, she is 35 & a widow, it says they were all born in upper Canada.
I'm not saying this is your man, but it may be a good starting point. I will look around for Frank using the other names.
Cordially, Lisa
I'm pretty sure I can find this family in the 1881 census so I don't think its your man.
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charlotteCH
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Hi John,
if this is your Frank and he lived and died in Ontario he may well be buried there and you might get lucky and find the grave on the Ontario Cemetery Finding Aid. Its on the net as OCFA and is free to search. Ilocate a very lost relative thru this... you might see a cluster of Jacksons whose names ring bells for you. Worth a look.
charlotte
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HARGREAVES, HANSON, BAILEY, BURTON, HEWITT, JAGGER, LOCKWOOD, UTTLEY, RUDD, TAYLOR, HOLDEN, SHAW Halifax / Sowerby/ Southowram 18C+
GILL, Accrington, Blackburn, West Derby, Lancs, migrated USA 1891 to RI: GILL in SC: HOTCHKISS in RI: PELOQUIN in RI
HUMPHRIES, HILLIER, ALLEN, LYDBURY Nunney/Frome 18-19C
HUMPHRIES, JOYCE, HEWITT, ROBINSON, McMULLEN, SUFFEL, CARNEY, MARRON, COMPTON, FREEMAN Ont. Canada 1830+
PILSEN, Sask.
82nd Regt of Foot 1808-1825 1st WRY Militia 1780-1800
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J.J.
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Where was he living in 1900? I can't see him on there...
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J.J.
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http://db.library.queensu.ca/census/ others in the region (heads/strays)1871 Ont. census were: JAMIMAH JACKSON age 6 b. Ontario in Wilmot ( * also says 2 deaths in last 12 months!) so mother may have died in childbirth JOHN JACKSON age 50 born Ireland... in Wilmot SETH JACKSON age 19 b. ONT in Wilmot...of IRISH descent
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rjohn
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My Frank Jackson could be anyone. On his death certificate the informant was a son Andrew Jackson. Frank's B/P says Alexandria, Nebraska(U.S.), and parents unknown. However old timers in Family say he was born in Canada. He came to U.S. in 1876 according to a 1900 Iowa (U.S) census, has his birthdate as 1861 born in Canada. He is with his wife Tidy and that is how I can identify him and her(my Great-great grandparents) I never have found a Frank in Nebraska . The Iowa census has Harlon, but it has to be Harlow T before it comes up. Think someone misread harlon for Harlow. My Frank is buried in Tx. Died in 1936 So, before 1900 I don't know which Frank he is. He was a horsetrader on 1900 census, and 1910. 1900 census has harlon, after that was Frank . Some speculate if he could be the Frank Jackson who rode with Sam Bass the outlaw in Tx. Sam Bass was shot in 1878 and member Frank Jackson disapeared, never to be found. I have not found anything to confirm or deny that. I dont think he actually lived in Canada after !900, and maybe not after he came here in 1876. If he were on the run he wouldn't probably give real facts. Some family say that he came out of Canada mountains as a boy. And that he was orphaned. Again, who knows. A mystery! His wife was Tidy J Simon. Tidy J mothers maiden name was Lucinda Hardin, daughter of John Hardin
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