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Topic: Joseph Rowley of Kidderminster (Read 347 times)
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loisand
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I wonder if someone would be so kind and do a lookup for me please:
Joseph Rowley married Elizabeth Blewer 25 Dec 1823 Kidderminster.
Thankyou in advance
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patrish
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Not sure exactly what look up you are asking for.
This marriage appears on the IGI with the name of the grooms father.
As its pre regisration the only other source is the local parish records but you would probably need to know which parish it took place, these early records do not give much information, usually just the bride and grooms names, thier status and whether of this parish and witnesses, no parents or occupations are given.
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this information is Crown Copyright. from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk London Hall, Thurston Stanley, Phillips, Ayrton, White, Morrish, Smith. West Ham/Barking Saint,Briggs, Essex Barker, Hampshire Kill, Kent Spong, U.S.A Earp, Scotland/Cumbria Templeton, Devon Morrish, Chudley |
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patrish
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IGI Submitted record.
Joseph Rowley ch. 10.10 1801 Lower Mitton, Worcester.
Father William ..... Mother Ann
IGI submitted record.
Marriage of William Rowley to Ann Hammonds 24.4.1797, Kidderminster
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this information is Crown Copyright. from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk London Hall, Thurston Stanley, Phillips, Ayrton, White, Morrish, Smith. West Ham/Barking Saint,Briggs, Essex Barker, Hampshire Kill, Kent Spong, U.S.A Earp, Scotland/Cumbria Templeton, Devon Morrish, Chudley |
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patrish
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There is this possible birth on the IGI  an extracted record.
Elisabetha Bluer b. 23.2.1805 ch. 24.2.1805 Chaplaincy of Wooton Warwen- Rc. Wooton Warwen, Warwick.
Father Gulielmi Bluer mother Aliciae.
My only assumption for this is that Warwick and Worcester are adjoining counties , the two others born around that time on the IGI are in Manchester.
Hope this helps.
Patrish 
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this information is Crown Copyright. from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk London Hall, Thurston Stanley, Phillips, Ayrton, White, Morrish, Smith. West Ham/Barking Saint,Briggs, Essex Barker, Hampshire Kill, Kent Spong, U.S.A Earp, Scotland/Cumbria Templeton, Devon Morrish, Chudley |
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loisand
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Thankyou Patrish, that is brilliant. You are right Warwick and Worcester are adjoining counties, gosh I wonder where the name Gulielmi Bluer comes from.
Is this the section I can ask for an 1841 census lookup on Joseph and Elizabeth Rowley? If not can you please point me in the right direction.
Thankyou once again for the information, I was going round in circlkes with them.
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Are you aware that an extracted record is taken from the actual parish register therefore far more accurate than a submitted one, so I would imagine that BLUER is the original correct spelling but became Blewer along the way like a lot of transcription do unfortunately.
This couple sound of foreign descent .
Will take a look at the 1841 see if I can find them.
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this information is Crown Copyright. from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk London Hall, Thurston Stanley, Phillips, Ayrton, White, Morrish, Smith. West Ham/Barking Saint,Briggs, Essex Barker, Hampshire Kill, Kent Spong, U.S.A Earp, Scotland/Cumbria Templeton, Devon Morrish, Chudley |
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loisand
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Thankyou Patrish you are a gem 
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This is proving quite difficult as I cannot see a Joseph with a wife Elizabeth on either the 41 or 51 .
I have found this family which might be them, these appear on both census, I wonder if there are any family names appearing for descendants that you might recognise
You will note that the wife is down as Ann also thier first 2 children are called Eliza and Elizabeth (possibly after thier mother) often when this happened if the mothers name was the same they sometimes reverted on the census to perhaps a middle name, she could well have been an Elizabetha Ann,but I have cross checked all the children on the IGI and all are given as father Joseph and mother Ann (all born St. Michaels Warwick), so we must be cautious.
HO107/1152/3/6/27/6
Living..... Jordan (not 100% sure thats correct) Wells, St. Michaels Warwickshire
Joseph Rowley 40 Weaver
Ann 40
Eliza 18
Elizabeth 16
Joseph 10
Emma 5
Sarah 4
Charles 2
All given as born in Warwick, although we know this is not correct for Joseph places of birth are often wrong on the census.
There are no other children to this couple on the 51, if you want those details just ask.
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loisand
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Thankyou Patrish, I have noted them down, all those names follow through the family, so it looks like it may be the right one. There is/was a Jordan Wells in Coventry, which is not far from Warwick, and closer enough to the areas that the Rowley family are situated. I also know that there are weavers in the family, so it looks like it is the same family that I want. Once again a big thankyou for all the help and hubby will be over the moon, what originally started of as "I only know my mom, stepdad, brothers and sisters and nan" has now escalated into a family he never knew, so needless to say he is one happy bunny. Thankyou
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Sorry to disappoint but I think they might not be your family, I have now found on the IGI these births which I think are the correct children because of the baptism area. But they are only submitted not extracted 
Joseph Rowley ch. 28.10.1826 Stourport, Lower Mitton, Worcester
Elizabeth Rowley ch. 25.8.1827 " " "
parents Joseph and Elizabeth
I cannot see an Emma, Sarah or Charles born to these.
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loisand
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Not to disappointed Patrish, I hadn't put them on my family tree, only wrote them on paper. They are more logical to be the children then the other ones, as they are all born Stourport.
Thanks Ruskie, so Guliemi is William!!! I did wonder as I found a William Blewr/Bluer on the IGI, so thankyou for that!!
Thankyou both
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patrish
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Bingo.... think this is the correct family in 1841 living in Kidderminster which has the town of Stourport and the Hamlet of Lower Mitton.
HO107/1197/15/4/33/17/7
Elizabeth Rowley 40
Eliza 15
Betsey 10
John 7
Adilade 4
Phebe 2
Joseph 3 months.
All born in th county, I cannot make out thier acutal address, perhaps you would please take a look Ruskie.
I cannot find the other children on the IGI but the last 2 may appear on the birth indexs will take a look.
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patrish
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Thanks Ruskie , thats something I have learned today
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patrish
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Oh dear  there is another problem ... found the 1841 family in 1851 and Elizabeth is the wife of a Thomas not Joseph
If only the 1841 gave relationship but Jospeh was not with that family anyway but its possible that he was deceased by 1841
There appear to be many Rowley families living in Worcester and Warwick with the same parents names and children names all about the same age 
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