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Topic: 1910 or 1920 Census Address - Jersey City COMPLETED. (Read 339 times)
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gene-genie
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Hi,
I wonder if someone could check who was living at this address in 1910 or 1920 Census:
113 Newark Ave, Jersey City.
Hoping it might be Di Pietro family - was the address on my grandfather's emigration manifest. Like to know the details of the family. If it's the person I believe - head would be Giuseppe di Pietro aged about 28 in 1910, 42 in 1920.
Thanks 
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BRISTOL & GLS:
DENNING - RIDDLE-DENNING. & Glam TANNER-DENNING, MORGAN, THOMAS, RICE-ADAMS, RITCHINGS.
DEV:18thC RICE, Mary, ADAMS, CLARKE,STENTAFORD. MICHLEMORE.
HANTS: RICE-ADAMS, RICE-DEVEREUX-ADAMS (S'hampton), PIPER. (Crawley)
All GLS: TOVEY, GLS/GLAM/BRKS. WESLEY/WASLEY, GLS/GLAM. MARSHALL Alstone, PEARSON, GREEN, JAYNES COOMBES, TOMBS.
LANCS: DUNN, Manc. BROWN Salford
CHS: BROMILEY
SOM: BALCH.
WLS: MORRIS, MGY/DEN, WMS, GRIFFITHS,
WTS/Lon: SKUSE
BRKS/Lon: CHURCH, WAKEFIELD
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Jacquie in Canada
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Posts: 1164
Canadian, eh!
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The only Giuseppe di Pietro I could find on the 1910 census in New Jersey was living in Passaic, Passaic County. He was listed as a boarder on both census.
In 1910 he was 34, born in Italy, parents born in Italy, married for 10 years, a mason and it said he emigrated in 1900. I couldn't him on the 1920 census.
At Ancestry the US census cannot be searched by address so I can't tell you who was living at the address you listed.
Jacquie
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Canada: Patterson, Brown, Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Johnston(e), Gorsuch, Kitchin/Kitchen
United States: Patterson, Smith, Brown, Vance, Bower(s), Newberry, Best, Love, Gorsuch
England (Northumberland): Brown, Whitfield, Henderson
Scotland (Glasgow, Edinburgh, Fife, East Lothian): Johnston(e), Bell, Galloway, Campbell, Robertson, Williamson, Thomson, Crawford
Germans from Russia: Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Meach, Lorenz
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gene-genie
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Thanks Jacquie,
1910 entry doesn't give any name for his wife does it? My grandfather's manifest seems to imply Di Pietro was his brother-in-law, (as far as I can make out) making his wife my grandfather's sister. If so, it's news to me as he never said he followed a sister to America.
I'll have another look for Guiseppe di Pietro on Ellis Island site - the one I found in 1906 was also from the same last address as my grandfather, I'd be inclined to think the census is more an estimate.
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BRISTOL & GLS:
DENNING - RIDDLE-DENNING. & Glam TANNER-DENNING, MORGAN, THOMAS, RICE-ADAMS, RITCHINGS.
DEV:18thC RICE, Mary, ADAMS, CLARKE,STENTAFORD. MICHLEMORE.
HANTS: RICE-ADAMS, RICE-DEVEREUX-ADAMS (S'hampton), PIPER. (Crawley)
All GLS: TOVEY, GLS/GLAM/BRKS. WESLEY/WASLEY, GLS/GLAM. MARSHALL Alstone, PEARSON, GREEN, JAYNES COOMBES, TOMBS.
LANCS: DUNN, Manc. BROWN Salford
CHS: BROMILEY
SOM: BALCH.
WLS: MORRIS, MGY/DEN, WMS, GRIFFITHS,
WTS/Lon: SKUSE
BRKS/Lon: CHURCH, WAKEFIELD
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Jacquie in Canada
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Posts: 1164
Canadian, eh!
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That Guiseppe di Pietro was the only di Pietro in the household. I don't know whether he is yours or not. Is it possible he anglicized his name after being in the US for a few years?
Jacquie
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Canada: Patterson, Brown, Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Johnston(e), Gorsuch, Kitchin/Kitchen
United States: Patterson, Smith, Brown, Vance, Bower(s), Newberry, Best, Love, Gorsuch
England (Northumberland): Brown, Whitfield, Henderson
Scotland (Glasgow, Edinburgh, Fife, East Lothian): Johnston(e), Bell, Galloway, Campbell, Robertson, Williamson, Thomson, Crawford
Germans from Russia: Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Meach, Lorenz
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gene-genie
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The Guiseppe Di Pietro who emigrated 1900 cannot be the same as I am looking for as he left from Bremen Germany aboard the Ems.
Can someone check by name and age on 1910 census? In that case looking for
Guiseppe Di/De Pietro aged abt 28 married born or from Cammarata Sicily.- could be Jersey or NY areas. He might be associated with the surname Di Martino, name of his cousins.
When he emigrated aboard the Sannio in 1906 he was supposed to be travelling with a Giuseppe Di Martino (also of Cammarata), but his name is scored out of the manifest. Giuseppe mentioned Salvatore Di Martino as his cousin.
Thanks.
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BRISTOL & GLS:
DENNING - RIDDLE-DENNING. & Glam TANNER-DENNING, MORGAN, THOMAS, RICE-ADAMS, RITCHINGS.
DEV:18thC RICE, Mary, ADAMS, CLARKE,STENTAFORD. MICHLEMORE.
HANTS: RICE-ADAMS, RICE-DEVEREUX-ADAMS (S'hampton), PIPER. (Crawley)
All GLS: TOVEY, GLS/GLAM/BRKS. WESLEY/WASLEY, GLS/GLAM. MARSHALL Alstone, PEARSON, GREEN, JAYNES COOMBES, TOMBS.
LANCS: DUNN, Manc. BROWN Salford
CHS: BROMILEY
SOM: BALCH.
WLS: MORRIS, MGY/DEN, WMS, GRIFFITHS,
WTS/Lon: SKUSE
BRKS/Lon: CHURCH, WAKEFIELD
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Jacquie in Canada
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Posts: 1164
Canadian, eh!
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Did he have a middle name? What was his wife's name? Do you know if or when she joined him?
Jacquie
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Canada: Patterson, Brown, Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Johnston(e), Gorsuch, Kitchin/Kitchen
United States: Patterson, Smith, Brown, Vance, Bower(s), Newberry, Best, Love, Gorsuch
England (Northumberland): Brown, Whitfield, Henderson
Scotland (Glasgow, Edinburgh, Fife, East Lothian): Johnston(e), Bell, Galloway, Campbell, Robertson, Williamson, Thomson, Crawford
Germans from Russia: Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Meach, Lorenz
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gene-genie
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I don't know any other details I am afraid - I am going on what's written on the manifest in 1912 & 1906. I did try to find G Di Pietro's wife who may have joined him after 1906, but I had no luck.
Sorry I can't be of more help..
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BRISTOL & GLS:
DENNING - RIDDLE-DENNING. & Glam TANNER-DENNING, MORGAN, THOMAS, RICE-ADAMS, RITCHINGS.
DEV:18thC RICE, Mary, ADAMS, CLARKE,STENTAFORD. MICHLEMORE.
HANTS: RICE-ADAMS, RICE-DEVEREUX-ADAMS (S'hampton), PIPER. (Crawley)
All GLS: TOVEY, GLS/GLAM/BRKS. WESLEY/WASLEY, GLS/GLAM. MARSHALL Alstone, PEARSON, GREEN, JAYNES COOMBES, TOMBS.
LANCS: DUNN, Manc. BROWN Salford
CHS: BROMILEY
SOM: BALCH.
WLS: MORRIS, MGY/DEN, WMS, GRIFFITHS,
WTS/Lon: SKUSE
BRKS/Lon: CHURCH, WAKEFIELD
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merjones
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1910 Manhattan, New York, New York
Joseph Pietro, age 31?, Married 6 years, immigration 1906, laborer on the docks
Julia, Pietro, age 28, 2 children born 1 living, immigration 1907
Selastin (Celestine?) Pietro, age 3months
I know the age is a little off but the immigration year is correct and the Americanization of his name seems possible.
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gene-genie
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Thanks so much for that 'merjones' - found her - she was my grandfather's sister:
Lombarda out of Palermo: Arrival March 4 1907 - both seem to have been struck off the manifest for this sailing:
Page 83
line 11 : Angela De Franchis married 21 seamtress from Cammarata - to husband Giuseppe di Pietro 113 Newark Ave, Jersey City.
line 12: Angela de Pietro aged 2 Cammarata.
Lots of people from Cammararta appear to be abroad.
Mother and child seem to have travelled about a week later aboard Liguira 12 March 1907.
Unfortunately there is an error on Ellis island site, as manifest that comes up is the wrong one. I've reported it 
I discover there are some De Franchis in Palermo on IGI - now I have a family marriage to look for about 1904.
Little Angela must have died between 1907-1910.
Thanks again to all - that's been a great help.
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« Last Edit: Friday 17 July 09 17:25 UTC (UK) by gene-genie »
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BRISTOL & GLS:
DENNING - RIDDLE-DENNING. & Glam TANNER-DENNING, MORGAN, THOMAS, RICE-ADAMS, RITCHINGS.
DEV:18thC RICE, Mary, ADAMS, CLARKE,STENTAFORD. MICHLEMORE.
HANTS: RICE-ADAMS, RICE-DEVEREUX-ADAMS (S'hampton), PIPER. (Crawley)
All GLS: TOVEY, GLS/GLAM/BRKS. WESLEY/WASLEY, GLS/GLAM. MARSHALL Alstone, PEARSON, GREEN, JAYNES COOMBES, TOMBS.
LANCS: DUNN, Manc. BROWN Salford
CHS: BROMILEY
SOM: BALCH.
WLS: MORRIS, MGY/DEN, WMS, GRIFFITHS,
WTS/Lon: SKUSE
BRKS/Lon: CHURCH, WAKEFIELD
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shellyesq
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I'm a little confused on who fits with who (are Angela & Julia one in the same?), but I think I found the family in 1920 that merjones found in 1910. In 1910, the address looks like 77 Oliver St. and in 1920, they seem to be at 81 Oliver St., so it seems too close to be a total coincidence.
1920 Census, Manhattan
Di Pietro, Julia, female, white, age 37, widowed, immigrated 1906, alien, b. Italy, parents b. Italy, buttonhole maker
daughter Lena, female, white, age 10, b. New York, parents b. Italy, attending school
daughter Josephine, female, white, age 6, b. New York, parents b. Italy, attending school
daughter Helen, female, white, age 4, b. New York, parents b. Italy
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gene-genie
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Hi Shellyesq,
More family ....hummm - see what you mean...... it is odd that 113 Newark Ave address has not made an appearance attached to De Pietro.
I just used Multimap to find 113 Newark Ave, then compared it to 77 Oliver Street - it's only a short walk down Grove Street to each address. Maybe Newark Ave was the only address my grandfather had in 1812, hence the difference in the address on 1910 Census.
I am sure the two Angela's who emigrated 1907 belong to the Giuseppe de Pietro (emigrated '06) as 113 Newark Ave Jersey City is the address on the manifest. She also notes him as her husband. I am also certain she is my great aunt, as De Pietro 113 Newark Ave appears on her brother's manifest in 1912. I believe his surname 'Franchio' clearly should have been Franchis - the writer of the manifest must have mistaken the last letter. All of them also came from Cammarata, so that all fits. They must be as my grandfather said, his 'Jersey cousins'.
The name change from Angela to Julia did confuse me too. Perhaps incorrectly, I've assumed she decided to adopt a middle name Julia when she arrived in the States, - I am assuming she was baptised Angela Giulia De Franchis, but of course I'll have to find a record to confirm.
If as seems likely your 1920 entry concurs with the one in 1910 - comparing the two, it seems little Angela who crossed with her mother did die and Lena (a version of Angela) was born in US 1910. Unless of course, she is visiting at the time of the census with Selatin (Celestine) who seems to be absent from 1920 entry. Is Selastin de Pietro 3m in 1910 Lena in 1920 - seems a bit if a stretch. There does seem to be a query on the name, could it be a transcription error?
It seems way too much of a coincidence for there to be two de Pietro families of the right age in Jersey, but I suppose it's not impossible.
Are you able to do a name search for 1920 for
Angela de Pietro aged abt 15 and a Selastin/Celestine aged 10
Giuseppe must have died between 1915-1920 - as he was a dock worker in 1910, a work related accident is not impossible.
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BRISTOL & GLS:
DENNING - RIDDLE-DENNING. & Glam TANNER-DENNING, MORGAN, THOMAS, RICE-ADAMS, RITCHINGS.
DEV:18thC RICE, Mary, ADAMS, CLARKE,STENTAFORD. MICHLEMORE.
HANTS: RICE-ADAMS, RICE-DEVEREUX-ADAMS (S'hampton), PIPER. (Crawley)
All GLS: TOVEY, GLS/GLAM/BRKS. WESLEY/WASLEY, GLS/GLAM. MARSHALL Alstone, PEARSON, GREEN, JAYNES COOMBES, TOMBS.
LANCS: DUNN, Manc. BROWN Salford
CHS: BROMILEY
SOM: BALCH.
WLS: MORRIS, MGY/DEN, WMS, GRIFFITHS,
WTS/Lon: SKUSE
BRKS/Lon: CHURCH, WAKEFIELD
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