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Topic: Sunter, Lunn, Bruce, Watson, Hay, Wallace, Lister, Peddie, Morris etc etc (Read 489 times)
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Andrew Sunter
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hi,
looking for Sunter's in Fife. have ancestors from Kirkcaldy, Dundee. think i've traced us as far back as 1822 when a William Sunter married an Elizabeth Christie in Kirkcaldy. i think they are my Great Great Great grandparents. have hit a brick wall after that
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AMBLY
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Re: Sunter
« Reply #1 on: Monday 13 July 09 13:37 UTC (UK) » |
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Hi Andrew
You have an ancestor, whose death and/or mariage record, names William SUNTER and Elizabeth CHRISTIE as the parents?
Cheers
AMBLY
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Andrew Sunter
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Re: Sunter
« Reply #2 on: Monday 13 July 09 13:57 UTC (UK) » |
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yes, I have a marriage record for Robert Sunter and Janet Peddie (married in Dundee) from 1864 which names William and Elizabeth as the parents of Robert. then i have a parish record from 1822 from Kirkcaldy about William and Elizabeths marriage.
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AMBLY
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Re: Sunter
« Reply #3 on: Monday 13 July 09 14:40 UTC (UK) » |
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Was Robert a shoemaker b abt 1840?
1851:High Street - Linktown , Abbotshall Fife
Parish 399, Ed 4, pg 19
Head: Elizabeth SUNTER 47, Bobbin Winder, b Dunfermline Fife
Dau: Elizabeth SUNTER 14, Flax Spinner, b Abbotshall
Son: Robert SUNTER 11, Scholar, b Abbotshall Fife
Lodger: Hugh SINCLAIR 41, Roper, b Perth, Perthshire
(original census s/be checked to see if Elizabeth snr is listed as Married or widowed)
DEATH: 1860 Abbotshall Fife
Elizabeth SUNTER other name CHRISTIE
Age is not indexed but may be shown in the actual document
1861: High Street, Abbotshall,
Parish 442, Ed 29, pg 8
Head: William SUNTER 61, Seaman, b Kirkcaldy
Dau: Elizabeth SUNTER 24, Flax Mill Worker, b Abbotshall
Son: Robert SUNTER 22, Shoemaker Journeyman, b Abbotshall
(original census s/be checked to see if William is listed as Married or widowed)
1871: High STreet, Kirkcaldy
Parish 442, ED 23, pg 12
Head: William SUNTER 71, Labourer in Foundry
Wife: Janet 49, b Dysart
Daughter: Jane PHILP 17, Linen Factory Worker, b Dysart
1881: 4 Reids court, Abbotshall Kirkcaldy
Head: William SUNTER 80, General Labourer, b Kirkcaldy
If this looks right, it would appear both William and Elizabeth died after 1855 - in which case their death certtificates should hopefully name their respective parents, getting you back another generation.
Cheers
AMBLY
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Andrew Sunter
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Re: Sunter
« Reply #4 on: Monday 13 July 09 15:38 UTC (UK) » |
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Wow. thats is great
yes, Robert was a shoemaker.
that is so helpful you have no idea.
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Andrew Sunter
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Re: Sunter
« Reply #5 on: Monday 13 July 09 16:34 UTC (UK) » |
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There's a William died in 1878 in Earlsferry who I think is the right one. his parents were David Sunter and Margaret Andrew. confusingly though, for a family so east coat based, they were married in Paisley in 1785. I've also seen William Sunter's father called John (in the parish record of the marriage). 
the marriage notice for them is so blurred as to be virtually unreadable (on Scotland's People anyway) so i cant gather anymore info from that. so there i'm stuck.
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Andrew Sunter
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Re: Sunter
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 14 July 09 08:42 UTC (UK) » |
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I'm also trying to tie up my family with an Andrew Sunter who died in WW1. he is named on a war memorial in Elie as Andrew B (for Bowie) Sunter but that is thought to be wrong as Andrew Bowie Sunter lived to 75 and died in 1956 in Edinburgh.
Andrew Alexander Sunter
Born March 21 1884
The parents and nine children were at Bassview, Liberty, Kilconquhar in the 1891 census
Died on 24th June 1916. Age 33.
Born at Elie, Fife, and enlisted at Winnipeg, Canada.
Andrew Alexander Sunter married Isabella Jane Wilson 1907 in Montrose. They lived at 53 King Street, Montrose
From his war record.
Andrew B Sunter
Rank: Private
Service Number: 460920
Regiment/Service: Canadian Infantry (Manitoba Regiment)
Andrew Alexander’s parents were Christopher M Sunter and Robina Thomson. Christopher’s parents were David Sunter and Anne Bowie
Andrew Bowie was born on 3 December 1880 in Leith. His parents were Alexander Sunter and Elizabeth Cumming. Alexander’s parents (so Andrew Bowie’s grandparents) were David Sunter and Anne Bowie.
Therefore: the 2 Andrew’s are cousins. Andrew Bowie Sunter died in 1956 in George Square, Edinburgh at the age of 75
Andrew Alexander Sunter is the bloke who left for Canada but somewhere along the line became known as Andrew Bowie Sunter. WHY?
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Andrew Sunter
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I got lost down my dads side so started on my mum's. could only find 12 of 16 greatx3 grandparents.
Great grandparents (1)
Alexander Sunter, a miner born on 15 May 1876 in Dundee. He died in 1949 Margaret Morris, born on 10 April 1875 in Broughty Ferry. She died in 1952.
Married on 17 October 1898 in Dundee.
At the time of the 1891 census, Alexander was 14 years old and lived at 6 Union Street, Dundee. The census says that he was living with his parents, Robert and Margaret, but Alexander’s mother was Janet Peddie. I suspect the census may be wrong.
Great grandparents (2)
Thomas Lunn, a ploughman born on 20 January 1884 in Orwell. He died in 1959
Christina Johnston Bruce, born on 1 October 1879 in Hatchbank. She died in 1951
Married on 8 January 1909 in Kinross.
At the time of the 1891 census, Thomas was 7 years old and lived in Kinglassie with parents John and Catherine, sisters Isabella (13), Charlotte ( , Catherine (4) and Maggie (2).
At the time of the 1881 census, Christina was 1 year old and lived at Carsegour, Kinross, with parents Thomas and Betsy, sister Betsy (3) and brother Thomas (1).
Great grandparents (3)
N/K
Great grandparents (4)
John Wallace, a gardener, born on 8 March 1882 in Creich.
Elisabeth Lister Watson, born on 26 May 1873 in Kirkcaldy. She died in 1952
Married on 29 May 1905 in Kirkcaldy.
At the time of the 1891 census, John was 9 years old and lived in the village of Brunton, in Creich with parents David and Helen.
At the time of the 1881 census, Elizabeth was 7 years old and lived at 150 Links Street, Abbotshall with parents David and Elizabeth, sisters Isabella (14), Margaret (11), brothers John (6) and Neil (1).
Great great grandparents (1)
Robert Sunter, a shoemaker, born sometime around 1839 in Kirkcaldy. He died in 1899
Janet or Jessie Peddie, born around 1839. She died in 1896.
Married on 26 February 1864 in Dundee.
At the time of the 1851 census, Robert was 11 years old and lived at Abbotshall High Street with mother Elizabeth, and sister Elizabeth (14).
Great great grandparents (2)
Thomas Morris, a lorry driver born on 19 August 1849 in Barry. He died in 1906
Annie Tarbet born in Dunnichen around 1849. She died in 1935 after falling and breaking her neck.
Married on 5 June 1869 in Dunnichen
At the time of the 1851 census, Thomas was less than a year old and lived with his mother Jane in Barry.
Annie was 3 years old and lived in Dunnichen with parents John and Betsy, sisters Jessie (19), Elizabeth (14), Helen (7 months), brothers George (17) and Alexander (6).
Great great grandparents (3)
John Lunn, a shepherd, born on 8 August 1858 in Stow. He died in 1926.
Catherine Brown, born on 16 October 1860 in Auchtertool. She died in 1944.
Married on 28 November 1879 in Kinglassie
At the time of the 1861 census, Catherine was 6 months old and lived at Great North Road, Beath, with parents Andrew and Isabella, brothers James (5), Andrew (4), David (3) and John (2).
Great great grandparents (4)
Thomas Bruce, a shepherd born in Kinross around 1850. He died in 1912
Betsy Wells born on 8 February 1853 in Kilspondie. She died in 1951.
Married on 26 July 1875 in Kinross.
Great great grandparents (5 & 6)
N/K
Great great grandparents (7)
David Wallace, a shoemaker born on 26 June 1842 in Ceres. He died in 1923.
Helen Watson Hay, born in Criech around 1841. She died in 1918.
Married on 4 December 1874 in Creich
Great great grandparents (
David Watson, a fireman born in Abbotshall around 1847.
Elizabeth Lister born on 3 August 1847 in West Wemyss. She died in 1916
Married on 14 January 1869 in Dysart.
Great great great grandparents (1)
William Sunter, a weaver and Elizabeth Christie. She was born in Dunfermline around 1804.
Married on 4 March 1922 in Kirkcaldy.
Great great great grandparents (2)
David Peddie, a flax dresser and Jane Harris.
Great great great grandparents (3)
James Morris, a labourer and Jane Adam who married on 9 November 1848 in Forfar.
Great great great grandparents (4)
John Tarbet, born in Dunnichen around 1810, and Betsy Porter born in Aberlemno around 1810.
Great great great grandparents (5)
Thomas Lunn, a shepherd and Joan Vallance who married on 25 April 1847 in Edrom.
Great great great grandparents (6)
Andrew Brown, a ploughman born in Inverkeithing around 1835.
Isabella Brown born in Fife around 1836.
Married on 11 November 1853 in Beath.
Great great great grandparents (7)
Thomas Bruce, a farm servant and Christian Johnstone
Great great great grandparents (
James Wells, a farm servant and Betsy Johnstone
Great great great grandparents (9 to 12)
N/K
Great great great grandparents (13)
David Wallace, a labourer and Jane Eaddie
Great great great grandparents (14)
George Bowman Hay, a seedsman born in Creich around 1811, and Ann Mitchell
Great great great grandparents (15)
Andrew Watson, linen weaver and Margaret Christopher.
Great great great grandparents (16)
John Lister, a miner and Isabella Lessels
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