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Carol Ann A
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I am still trying to find my Burchell family, and as I got such a good response from members last time, thought I needed to try again.
I have a John Burchell b. 1813, Arundel, married to Eliza b. 1816, Arundel, I do not know her maiden name. John is a master-shoemaker.
I have all the census records for John and his family which show them living in King St, Arundel. Johns death is recorded in 1875, but no record of his birth.
I am trying to find John's parents, and the maiden name of his wife Eliza.
In the 1841 census, I have found Ann Burchell, a widow, 64 years, a grocer,not born in Arundel, she has two sons living with her George 26, a grocer b. Arundel, and Charles 24, a excise officer also born Arundel. Ann Burchell and her two sons live in the same street as my John Burchell, it is very possible that Ann could be Johns mother.
I would very much appreciate if someone could check these details for me.
With very best wishes to all, Carol Ann
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nanny jan
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Hi Carol Ann,
Did John and Eliza have any children? If their births were registered then the certificate will show Eliza's maiden name.
Who was the informant on John's death certificate in 1875?
Nanny Jan
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Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick) all LDN area/suburbs Ottley/ MDX, Henman/ KNT Gandy/LDN before 1830 Burgess/LDN Barham/SFK Rainer/CAN (Toronto)
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patrish
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All the childrens baptisms are on the IGI.
James ch.19.1834 Arundel Thomas ch. 6.818.43 West Chiltington Sussex Ellen ch. 31.5.1846 Arundel Fanny ch. 30.9. 1849 Arundel .
If their births were registered then the certificate will show Eliza's maiden name. Ellen Burchell Sept. q 1843 Petworth 7 - 412
Thomas Burchell Sept.q 1843 Westhampnett 7 - 490
Fanny also appears but her page number is debatable. Sept.q 1849 Worthing 7 - 535 or 635
I couldent find the marriage of John and Eliza on the IGI 
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this information is Crown Copyright. from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk London Hall, Thurston Stanley, Phillips, Ayrton, White, Morrish, Smith. West Ham/Barking Saint,Briggs, Essex Barker, Hampshire Kill, Kent Spong, U.S.A Earp, Scotland/Cumbria Templeton, Devon Morrish, Chudley
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patrish
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According to Sussex Online Parish Clerks James, Ellen, Fanny were all baptised at St. Nicholas Arundel,
John and Eliza also had another Fanny baptised 16.3.1848 who evidently did not survive.. also there is an Emma 25.4.1852 and Allen 28.6.1857 to John and Eliza Burchell.
I could find no baptism here for John or a marriage 
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this information is Crown Copyright. from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk London Hall, Thurston Stanley, Phillips, Ayrton, White, Morrish, Smith. West Ham/Barking Saint,Briggs, Essex Barker, Hampshire Kill, Kent Spong, U.S.A Earp, Scotland/Cumbria Templeton, Devon Morrish, Chudley
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patrish
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In the 1841 census, I have found Ann Burchell, a widow, 64 years, a grocer,not born in Arundel, she has two sons living with her George 26, a grocer b. Arundel, and Charles 24, a excise officer also born Arundel. Ann Burchell and her two sons live in the same street as my John Burchell, it is very possible that Ann could be Johns mother. l
George Burchell 26 and Charles 24 are on the IGI children of James and Ann, I think its unlikely that she is Johns mothers also
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this information is Crown Copyright. from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk London Hall, Thurston Stanley, Phillips, Ayrton, White, Morrish, Smith. West Ham/Barking Saint,Briggs, Essex Barker, Hampshire Kill, Kent Spong, U.S.A Earp, Scotland/Cumbria Templeton, Devon Morrish, Chudley
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swebby
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Interestingly the notes accompanying the baptisms of the children on the SFHG index says Burchell or Fletcher, and another says Burchell alias Summersill.
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Webb (Sussex), Barham (Sussex, Norfolk/Suffolk), Day (Somerset), Rowett(Somerset, Cornwall), White (Leighlinbridge), Deane (Roscommon), Quinn (Roscommon)
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patrish
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The name Summersil was mentioned on the St. Nicholas marriage records with a Henry (I think) Burchell.
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this information is Crown Copyright. from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk London Hall, Thurston Stanley, Phillips, Ayrton, White, Morrish, Smith. West Ham/Barking Saint,Briggs, Essex Barker, Hampshire Kill, Kent Spong, U.S.A Earp, Scotland/Cumbria Templeton, Devon Morrish, Chudley
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swebby
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Okay I have found a John Summersel baptised 24 Jan 1813 in Arundel St Nicholas, mother Ann. Maybe Ann married a Burchell after and so it could well be the one in that street.
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Webb (Sussex), Barham (Sussex, Norfolk/Suffolk), Day (Somerset), Rowett(Somerset, Cornwall), White (Leighlinbridge), Deane (Roscommon), Quinn (Roscommon)
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patrish
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A breakthrough
Looks as if John was the illegitmate son of Ann
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this information is Crown Copyright. from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk London Hall, Thurston Stanley, Phillips, Ayrton, White, Morrish, Smith. West Ham/Barking Saint,Briggs, Essex Barker, Hampshire Kill, Kent Spong, U.S.A Earp, Scotland/Cumbria Templeton, Devon Morrish, Chudley
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patrish
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I cant seem to find a marriage of Ann to a James Burchell. 
This family is very confusing isent it
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this information is Crown Copyright. from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk London Hall, Thurston Stanley, Phillips, Ayrton, White, Morrish, Smith. West Ham/Barking Saint,Briggs, Essex Barker, Hampshire Kill, Kent Spong, U.S.A Earp, Scotland/Cumbria Templeton, Devon Morrish, Chudley
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kerryb
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Hi Carol Ann A
Found John's baptism on the SFHG baptism database
John Burcher baptised 8 August 1813 at St Nicholas, Arundel to William and Elizabeth Burcher, labourer
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukSearching for my family - Baldwin - Sussex, Middlesex, Cork, Pilbeam - Sussex, Harmer - Sussex, Terry - Surrey, Kent, Rhoades - Lincs, Roffey - Surrey, Traies - Devon & Middlesex & many many more to be found on my website .... www.kerrysfamilyhistory.co.uk
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kerryb
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Marriage of his parents from the SMI
William Burcher married Elizabeth Parsons on 16 December 1812 at Arundel.
Kerry
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukSearching for my family - Baldwin - Sussex, Middlesex, Cork, Pilbeam - Sussex, Harmer - Sussex, Terry - Surrey, Kent, Rhoades - Lincs, Roffey - Surrey, Traies - Devon & Middlesex & many many more to be found on my website .... www.kerrysfamilyhistory.co.uk
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patrish
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What a brilliant find Kerry so we have been searching for the wrong surname all along 
Just found if myself... its easy with the correct name
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this information is Crown Copyright. from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk London Hall, Thurston Stanley, Phillips, Ayrton, White, Morrish, Smith. West Ham/Barking Saint,Briggs, Essex Barker, Hampshire Kill, Kent Spong, U.S.A Earp, Scotland/Cumbria Templeton, Devon Morrish, Chudley
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