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Carol Ann A
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BURCHELL ARUNDEL
« on: Tuesday 14 July 09 11:47 UTC (UK) »

I am still trying to find my Burchell family, and as I got such a good response from members last time, thought I needed to try again.

I have a John Burchell b. 1813, Arundel, married to Eliza b. 1816, Arundel, I do not know her maiden name. John is a master-shoemaker.

I have all the census records for John and his family which show them living in King St, Arundel. Johns death is recorded  in 1875, but no record of his birth.

I am trying to find John's parents, and the maiden name of his wife Eliza.

In the 1841 census, I have found Ann Burchell, a widow, 64 years, a grocer,not born in Arundel, she has two sons living with her George 26, a grocer b. Arundel, and Charles 24, a excise officer also born Arundel.
Ann Burchell and her two sons live in the same street as my John Burchell, it is very possible that Ann could be Johns mother.

I would very much appreciate if someone could check these details for me.

With very best wishes to all,
Carol Ann
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Re: BURCHELL ARUNDEL
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 14 July 09 14:18 UTC (UK) »

Hi Carol Ann,

Did John and Eliza have any children?  If their births were registered then the certificate will show Eliza's maiden name.

Who was the informant on John's death certificate in 1875?



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Re: BURCHELL ARUNDEL
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 14 July 09 15:53 UTC (UK) »

All the childrens baptisms are on the IGI.

James ch.19.1834 Arundel
Thomas ch. 6.818.43 West Chiltington Sussex
Ellen ch. 31.5.1846 Arundel
Fanny ch. 30.9. 1849 Arundel .

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If their births were registered then the certificate will show Eliza's maiden name.

Ellen Burchell Sept. q 1843 Petworth   7 -  412

Thomas Burchell Sept.q 1843 Westhampnett   7 - 490

Fanny also appears but her page number is debatable.  Sept.q 1849 Worthing 7 - 535 or 635

I couldent find the marriage of John and Eliza on the IGI  Sad

 




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Re: BURCHELL ARUNDEL
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 14 July 09 17:06 UTC (UK) »

According to Sussex Online Parish Clerks  James, Ellen, Fanny were all baptised at St. Nicholas Arundel,

John  and Eliza also had another Fanny baptised 16.3.1848 who evidently did not survive.. also there is an Emma 25.4.1852 and Allen 28.6.1857 to John and Eliza Burchell.

I could find no baptism here for John or a marriage  Sad
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Re: BURCHELL ARUNDEL
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 14 July 09 17:15 UTC (UK) »

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In the 1841 census, I have found Ann Burchell, a widow, 64 years, a grocer,not born in Arundel, she has two sons living with her George 26, a grocer b. Arundel, and Charles 24, a excise officer also born Arundel.
Ann Burchell and her two sons live in the same street as my John Burchell, it is very possible that Ann could be Johns mother.
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George Burchell 26 and Charles 24 are on the IGI children of James and Ann,  I think its unlikely that she is Johns mothers also  Undecided
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Re: BURCHELL ARUNDEL
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 14 July 09 18:00 UTC (UK) »

Interestingly the notes accompanying the baptisms of the children on the SFHG index says Burchell or Fletcher, and another says Burchell alias Summersill.
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Re: BURCHELL ARUNDEL
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 14 July 09 18:07 UTC (UK) »

The name Summersil was mentioned on the St. Nicholas marriage records with a Henry (I think) Burchell.
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Re: BURCHELL ARUNDEL
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 14 July 09 18:12 UTC (UK) »

Okay I have found a John Summersel baptised 24 Jan 1813 in Arundel St Nicholas, mother Ann. Maybe Ann married a Burchell after and so it could well be the one in that street.
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Re: BURCHELL ARUNDEL
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 14 July 09 18:46 UTC (UK) »

A breakthrough  Cheesy

Looks as if John was the illegitmate son of Ann  Undecided
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Re: BURCHELL ARUNDEL
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 14 July 09 18:52 UTC (UK) »

Just to recap all the childrens baptisms in Arundel and notes
James 19 Jan 1834
Jack 6 Sep 1835 (Summersill alias Burchill)
Eliza Elizabeth 25 Dec 1836 (Summersel alias Burchel)
Kate 14 Apr 1839 (Summersell alias Burchell)
Ellen 31 May 1846
Fanny 16 Mar 1848 (Burchell or Fletcher)
Fanny 30 Sep 1849 (Burchell or Fletcher)
Emma 25 Apr 1852
Allen 28 Jun 1857

I have looked through the Sussex Marriage Index but cannot find anything that will help !

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Re: BURCHELL ARUNDEL
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 14 July 09 18:59 UTC (UK) »

I cant seem to find a marriage of Ann to a James Burchell. Roll Eyes

This family is very confusing isent it  Grin
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Re: BURCHELL ARUNDEL
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 14 July 09 19:51 UTC (UK) »

Hi Carol Ann A

Found John's baptism on the SFHG baptism database

John Burcher baptised 8 August 1813 at St Nicholas, Arundel
to William and Elizabeth Burcher, labourer

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Re: BURCHELL ARUNDEL
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 14 July 09 19:53 UTC (UK) »

Marriage of his parents from the SMI

William Burcher married Elizabeth Parsons on 16 December 1812 at Arundel.

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Re: BURCHELL ARUNDEL
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 14 July 09 19:55 UTC (UK) »

What a brilliant find Kerry  Cheesy  so we have been searching for the wrong surname all along  Sad

Just found if myself... its easy with the correct name  Roll Eyes
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Re: BURCHELL ARUNDEL
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 14 July 09 20:02 UTC (UK) »

I looked at the Burcher baptism and thought about it being a mistranscription but there are a lot of Burchers so I would be wary of that one being correct.
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