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Jonnus
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Charles Edward Hulkes
« on: Tuesday 14 July 09 14:38 UTC (UK) »
Hi there

Looking for information about Charles Edward Hulkes maybe born in Essex.
This daughter was Mary Ann Hulkes (b 1867 in Mansing, Essex) who married my
GG Grandfather George James Anders in 1890.

Looking forward to hearing from anybody

Jon
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Re: Charles Edward Hulkes
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 14 July 09 15:13 UTC (UK) »
Hi

This is a tricky one, as I can't see a suitable birth or census record for Mary Ann (as Hulkes) before marriage, or any evidence that a Charles Edward Hulkes existed!  It's a very unusual surname. What was his occupation, according to his daughter's marriage certificate? Does it say that he was deceased?

I see that she said in 1891 that her age was 23 and her birthplace was "Mancing", Essex (RG12/653/29/27).  I know of no such place as Mancing.  Do you have her in any later census for confirmation of the birthplace or do you have other sources of information for her birth?

Do you have any other clues to the family such as, for example, census/BMD information and/or names of witnesses from the marriage certificate?

Anna Smiley

 
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Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)
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Re: Charles Edward Hulkes
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 14 July 09 15:19 UTC (UK) »
I, too, can't find any evidence for Mary Ann other than the 1891 entry and the marriage.

There is a place called Messing in Essex, although my guess is that the pronunciation of Mountnessing is more likely to be heard as Mancing.

They married in Kent and Hulkes is fairly common in Kent.

(I see you had no luck when you asked this question three and a half years ago; I hope you have better luck this time).

Richard
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Re: Charles Edward Hulkes
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 14 July 09 15:31 UTC (UK) »
1901 gives Marys birthplace as Stanbridge,Bedfordshire. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

RG13; Piece: 719; Folio: 72; Page: 15. = Frindsbury
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rjknott
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Re: Charles Edward Hulkes
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 14 July 09 15:32 UTC (UK) »
I wonder whether this is her in 1901:

RG13/719
Frindsbury, Kent

Mary A  Anders, 32, widow, charwoman, b Stanbridge, Bedfordshire (indexed as May A Anders)
George A, son, 9
Edith A, dau, 6
William A, son, 7
Walter A, son, 4    all b Frindsbury

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Re: Charles Edward Hulkes
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 14 July 09 15:37 UTC (UK) »
Mary Ann seems to have reverted to an Essex birthplace by 1911, but without viewing the transcript/image I don't know where in Essex she's cited.

Anna
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Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)
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Re: Charles Edward Hulkes
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 14 July 09 15:42 UTC (UK) »
Hi Anna, Richard & Sue

Thanks for your quick reply's according to Mary Ann's wedding certificate Charles was a Mariner.
Sue that looks to be her.
Richard that is the family as George is my Great Granfather.
Know wonder I couldn't find her it's along way from Essex to Bedfordshire.

Many Thanks

Jon
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Re: Charles Edward Hulkes
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 14 July 09 15:45 UTC (UK) »
There is, of course, a Stambridge in Essex as well.

Richard
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Re: Charles Edward Hulkes
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 14 July 09 15:46 UTC (UK) »
Hi there

Look's like I'll be looking in Essex & Befordshire

Thanks

Jon
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