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tac
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1891 look up please
« on: Friday 17 July 09 09:26 UTC (UK) »

 looking for elizabeth williams and found this on the 1891 census,

    elizabeth j williams born 1885. machynlleth montgomeryshire.
is the any one who has the 1891 census could have a look for me .
                thank you
                             tac
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raymond, dulwich?
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ansell, woolwich, west ham
CaroleW
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Re: 1891 look up please
« Reply #1 on: Friday 17 July 09 10:58 UTC (UK) »

Where did you find the entry and where was she living at that time

There is no Ancestry entry for that profile
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tac
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Re: 1891 look up please
« Reply #2 on: Friday 17 July 09 13:27 UTC (UK) »

hi carolew
they are on .find my past.com
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goodhew,sittingbourne.
raymond, dulwich?
stacey, berkshire(inkpen)
crabb, aveley essex.
clarke, west ham
williams, borth, cardigan.
broad, barrow green teynham
crabb, essex
ansell, woolwich, west ham
Gadget
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Re: 1891 look up please
« Reply #3 on: Friday 17 July 09 13:35 UTC (UK) »

Hi tac

There is this baptism  showing but not Machynlleth:

27 Sept 1885, Llanwddyn

Mary Elizabeth Jane Williams Parents - John Williams and Catherine.
Residence - Minffordd

this would be the Llanfyllin registration district though.


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tac
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Re: 1891 look up please
« Reply #4 on: Friday 17 July 09 13:49 UTC (UK) »

hi gadget,
thanks for that but my elizabeth second name is jane and according to the 1911 she was born in s dogelly.
the 1911 is the only census i have found her on and the reason i think that is  is because her mothers name is not confirmed,but it is said to be pricilla williams.
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goodhew,sittingbourne.
raymond, dulwich?
stacey, berkshire(inkpen)
crabb, aveley essex.
clarke, west ham
williams, borth, cardigan.
broad, barrow green teynham
crabb, essex
ansell, woolwich, west ham
Gadget
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Re: 1891 look up please
« Reply #5 on: Friday 17 July 09 14:03 UTC (UK) »

It was Elizabeth Jane - slip of the names  Roll Eyes

Sorry about that. That's the second mistake that I've made today  Embarrassed

Where on FMP did you find her? I'm not sure that she would say Dolgellau (Meirionethshire)  if she was b. Machynlleth.


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CaroleW
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Re: 1891 look up please
« Reply #6 on: Friday 17 July 09 14:08 UTC (UK) »

Do you have a copy of her marriage cert showing her fathers name and occupation?

Was she already married on the 1911 census?  If not - who was she living with
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Re: 1891 look up please
« Reply #7 on: Friday 17 July 09 14:15 UTC (UK) »

Is this them in 1891:

Tanllan, Dolgelley
RG12/4642/15/24

Williams
John, 32, coachman, b. Salop, Llanymynech
Elizth, 33, dressmaker
Mary, 8
Elizth, 6
Richard M, 3
Elsie Anna, 2
Elizabeth Ellis, servant,18, domestic servant
John Osborn Williams,son, 7 months

All b. Dolgelley except John



Not priscilla though  Undecided


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Re: 1891 look up please
« Reply #8 on: Friday 17 July 09 14:15 UTC (UK) »

If the 1911 shows Dolgelly - that was Montgomeryshire until 1935

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thanks for that but my elizabeth second name is jane and according to the 1911 she was born in s dogelly.[/quote]


Sorry - scrap that - I thought I was looking at Montgomeryshire registrations and it was Merionthshire - divi!!
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Re: 1891 look up please
« Reply #9 on: Friday 17 July 09 14:17 UTC (UK) »

Dolgelley is in Meirionethshire

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/MER/Dolgellau/index.html

http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/dolgelly.html

It is also classified as Meirionethshre in the Censuses
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Re: 1891 look up please
« Reply #10 on: Friday 17 July 09 14:21 UTC (UK) »

Hi Gadget

I had just discovered my error and amended my post above - sorry about that
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Re: 1891 look up please
« Reply #11 on: Friday 17 July 09 14:24 UTC (UK) »

OK - I wondered where you'd got it from. I've been searching these two counties (plus Denbs and Flint) for years. I thought I'd missed something for a minute   Grin

I think the 1891 that I've found looks the most likely - mother's name is not what tac thought though.


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Re: 1891 look up please
« Reply #12 on: Friday 17 July 09 14:30 UTC (UK) »

hi thanks all for having a look for me.this is my sister in laws family and
the reason i have the name priscilla is that she has a pic of elizabeth and priscilla and theses names are written on it
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goodhew,sittingbourne.
raymond, dulwich?
stacey, berkshire(inkpen)
crabb, aveley essex.
clarke, west ham
williams, borth, cardigan.
broad, barrow green teynham
crabb, essex
ansell, woolwich, west ham
CaroleW
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Posts: 16697


Barney 1993-2005


Re: 1891 look up please
« Reply #13 on: Friday 17 July 09 14:32 UTC (UK) »

Hi

You need to buy a copy of her marriage cert to confirm her fathers name and occupation.  The 1891 entry that Gadget has found is only the one you found on FMP - without confirmation of her fathers name - you will not know if it is the right family. 

Does the picture say that Priscilla is Elizabeth's mother??

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Re: 1891 look up please
« Reply #14 on: Friday 17 July 09 14:34 UTC (UK) »

Also - does it give an idea of the date on the photo? How old does Elizabeth look, etc.  It might be able to get a rough approx of Priscilla's age from it.


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