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Jolly Roger
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Re: Newbiggin .. is it in Durham or Northumberland?
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 16 July 09 22:07 UTC (UK) »
Well I wish people would not post twice, on the same subject on two different threads it get confusing enough without this.

They should be  rule which states only one thread per name subject to save us who are willing to help been told it has been discussed on another thread already.

Sorry Rant over but it would save time and effort on here.

JR
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Re: Newbiggin .. is it in Durham or Northumberland?
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 16 July 09 22:09 UTC (UK) »
The link was on the first posting on this thread. . It was pretty clear.


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Jolly Roger
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Re: Newbiggin .. is it in Durham or Northumberland?
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 16 July 09 22:18 UTC (UK) »
Yes But Unfortunately I am going Blind and while i can i try to help, but it seems some well try to confuse the issue instead of Bumping up they previous threads so people like me and others know what has been discussed before also what has been replied to before.

It would make these threads a better place for everyone.

JR
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Re: Newbiggin .. is it in Durham or Northumberland?
« Reply #18 on: Friday 17 July 09 08:03 UTC (UK) »
Topics now merged.  There are at least 9 Newbiggins in the Cumbria/Durham/Northumberland/Yorkshire area in my road atlas so it is not an easy task to find him!
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Re: Newbiggin .. is it in Durham or Northumberland?
« Reply #19 on: Friday 17 July 09 08:24 UTC (UK) »
Hi again

I've been cross checking the Northumberland Newbiggins with Reg areas .

we have ~

Newbiggin by the Sea - Ashington (Morpeth rRD)
Newbiggin - South of Hexham (Hexham RD or Shotley High Q  RDafter 1887)
Newbiggin - near Blanchland/Consett  (I think this would be Lanchester RD but could be Hexham. It's not clear on Genuki Undecided)


The only birth registration that appears to match is:

John Charles Seymour, June q, 1885, Lanchester ,vol 10a, p 311


A quarter early but it's the best I can come up with.


Gadget

I've not checked for this person on any of the censuses or possibles deaths.
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Re: Newbiggin .. is it in Durham or Northumberland?
« Reply #20 on: Friday 17 July 09 08:48 UTC (UK) »
I am very sorry to have confused everyone. Huh

This thread was purely to establish where Newbiggin was!

I simply put a link to my original thread in this first post to give everyone a little more background!

Could the mods please close this thread and open my original one now we have established my Newbiggin is in Northumbria?

Many Thanks.
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Re: Newbiggin .. is it in Durham or Northumberland?
« Reply #21 on: Friday 17 July 09 10:31 UTC (UK) »
There are 99 hits for Newbiggin in the link I gave yesterday
http://leisure.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/search/all/newbiggin/1?q=newbiggin&gazName=p

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Re: Newbiggin .. is it in Durham or Northumberland?
« Reply #22 on: Friday 17 July 09 10:53 UTC (UK) »
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There are 99 hits for Newbiggin in the link I gave yesterday

True - but very many of them are in Scotland, and the enquiry was was about Northumberland or Durham.

Jennifer
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Re: Newbiggin .. is it in Durham or Northumberland?
« Reply #23 on: Friday 17 July 09 10:57 UTC (UK) »
..and the Army Pension record clearly states Northumberland.

I've looked for this person for many hours now on censuses and BMDs, Jennifer (as you have) and can't find a suitable one.

My thoughts are that either John was born with a different surname and took the surname of a stepfather or that his first name wasn't John  Undecided  Nothing is coming up at all.


Gadget

added - now wondering if it might even be Newbiggin Hall/Low Newbiggin west of Kenton in N/c itself - there are some birth regs coming up for Newcastle - but why would he say b. Newbiggin rather than Newcastle  Undecided
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Re: Newbiggin .. is it in Durham or Northumberland?
« Reply #24 on: Friday 17 July 09 11:06 UTC (UK) »
It seems from the Army Record that John could be economical with the truth.

It seems that he states that he married Mary Jane Sidlow, a spinster,  in 1900, and that her son Herbert was his, when in fact he married her in 1913, and she was a widow. Working from the date of birth given on the army record this makes him a mere 15 when he married her!
 
Mary Jane (Ashworth)  married her first husband,  Frank Sidlow, in 1900, and Herbert was Franks son, not John's.

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Re: Newbiggin .. is it in Durham or Northumberland?
« Reply #25 on: Friday 17 July 09 11:09 UTC (UK) »
yes - lots of inconsistencies but no real leads whatsoever. We know his height and other physical characteristics, his full army health record, etc.

Another thought - how did he get to Manchester?  ....and, if he wasn't born Newbiggin, why did he choose to give that as his birthplace?

Just wondering if Tracey might manage to get an obituary for him - maybe he had siblings  Undecided


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Re: Newbiggin .. is it in Durham or Northumberland?
« Reply #26 on: Friday 17 July 09 11:18 UTC (UK) »
Quote from: JenB on Friday 17 July 09 10:53 UTC (UK)
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There are 99 hits for Newbiggin in the link I gave yesterday

True - but very many of them are in Scotland, and the enquiry was was about Northumberland or Durham.

Jennifer

I was just pointing them out, I was not prepared to count which were where  Grin

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Re: Newbiggin?
« Reply #27 on: Friday 17 July 09 11:31 UTC (UK) »
Just to make it quite clear that the information we have is that he was born in the  'Parish of Newbiggin in the County of Northumberland'

The only Parish by this name in Northumberland is Newbiggin by the Sea which was in the Morpeth RD:

http://www.genuki.bpears.org.uk/NBL/Newbiggin/index.html

Although what John interpreted as parish in 1914, is impossible to decide.


Gadget

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Re: Newbiggin?
« Reply #28 on: Friday 17 July 09 12:32 UTC (UK) »
Castana,

Clutching at straws - who were the witnesses to John Seymour's marriage, please?

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Re: Newbiggin?
« Reply #29 on: Friday 17 July 09 15:23 UTC (UK) »
Hi all, just managed to drag myself away from work! Roll Eyes

I'll give you all the details from his marriage cert:

Feb 6 1913 at St.Johns Church, Failsworth, county of Lancaster.
John Seymour aged 27 Batchelor collier of 5 Ash St. Failsworth, father John Seymour (deceased) Collier
Mary Jane SIDLOW 30 Widow Tenter of All Saints, Newton Heath, father James Ashworth (deceased) Fitter

Witnesses: William Jones and Jane Richardson (x her mark).

Hope this throws some light onto this big mystery!! I wonder whether John didn't really know where he was born?? All very strange!

Tracy
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