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lettie
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Mary Hogg
« on: Tuesday 21 July 09 06:24 UTC (UK) » |
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Would anyone know about the murder of a child by Mary Hogg in 1841? Mary, aged 67 and a farm servant, murdered her daughter’s child, by strangling it. She committed the offence to prevent her daughter’s disgrace. Mary was sentenced to death and the sentence commuted to transportation to Van Diemen’s Land for Life. Mary claimed to be from Addingham, north Carlisle. Mary was tried in Carlisle on the 3rd of August 1841. Thanks Lettie.
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robbiesmum
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Hi Lettie
This is an edited version of the inquest, there is a lot more detail about the crime in the newspaper:
April 24th 1841 Carlisle Patriot - Child Murder
John Hogg of Pateshill, parish of Irthington, farmer, lived with his daughter Mary and grand-daughter named Jane, her illegitimate daughter, whose age is upwards of 30. On Saturday morning last, the farmer who had been in a declining state of health for a considerable time, became much worse, and the neighbours were called in… the old man shortly expired.
During the time the neighbours were in the house, Jane Hogg was in a bed in a room upstairs… she was heard to moan several times during the morning between six and nine o’clock, and her mother remained with her the principal part of that time. Nothing occurred to attract the particular attention of those downstairs, but it being reported that Jane was pregnant, suspicion arose that she had bore a child, and by Monday (the day of John Hogg’s funeral) it was pretty freely talked about. On Monday afternoon, the report was made known to Mr Carrick, the coroner… he accordingly proceeded to Pateshill, accompanied by Mr Graham, surgeon of Brampton…
Mr Graham soon satisfied himself by the most unequivocal proofs that Jane had been very recently delivered…after considerable delay, Mary said that she would produce the body if Mr Graham and Mr Carrick would retire into another room. She accordingly brought the body into the room, and laid it upon a chair. It was without any covering – there were very severe contused bruises upon the forehead, nose and mouth, as if they had been struck with violence against a wall, and a piece of tape was tied round its neck. It was evident that the presence of this ligature had escaped Mary’s attention, for as soon as it was noticed she made a snatch to tear it away… A post mortem examination was made by Messrs Graham and Armstrong, surgeons, who proved that the child had been born with life and had died from strangulation.
After an investigation of several hours, the jury returned a verdict of Wilful Murder against Jane and Mary Hogg – the latter was committed to gaol, and Jane will be removed as soon as she is sufficiently recovered to undertake the journey.
An account of the trial is in the Carlisle Patriot August 7th 1841, if you contact Carlisle library they could copy it for you.
cheers
Bridget
http://longtown19.website.orange.co.uk/
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robbiesmum
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Re: Mary Hogg
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 22 July 09 07:37 UTC (UK) » |
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Can you tell us what happened to Mary once she was transported? having read the reports of her trial in the Cumberland newpapers, I wondered what had happened to her once she had left this country, and whether she ever returned.
cheers
Bridget
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lettie
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Re: Mary Hogg
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 22 July 09 07:59 UTC (UK) » |
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Mary was sent to Launceston by November 1842, the ship having arrived in Hobart in September of that year. I can find her in Launceston in July 1844, but as she committed no further crime there is little else on her conduct record. She received her ticket of leave on the 19th of January 1847. A Mary Hogg died in Launceston in April 1854, but the age does not quite match, although it is only out by 5 years so it could well be her. It seems sad there is so little about her. Do you know what happened to her daughter Jane, as I cannot find her transported here?
Someone was enquiring of Mary in 1879 through the lawyers in Brampton so it seems she was not forgotten in the colony. I shall keep looking.
She is one of the older women transported so she captured my interest. Lettie
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Re: Mary Hogg
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 22 July 09 08:36 UTC (UK) » |
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Thanks, that is very interesting. No, I don't know what happened to her daughter Jane- I don't think she was hanged - the jury found her guilty of murder with a "recommendation to mercy".
I noticed on the A2A website some documents about John Hogg's will, I don't know if he left any money to his daughter or granddaughter, but if they were both in gaol at the time the will was proved, it might have complicated matters.
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Bridget
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janjan
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Hi lettie and bridget,
mary hogg is a relative of my husband,i do have some info somewhere about her,one of her relatives wanted to sell land thats why they were trying to trace her,her brother provided for her daughter on the grounds she had no contact with mary,will hunt out what papers i have,
janice
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janjan
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Hi Lettie,
i hired a researcher in tasmania and this is the info i recieved,
Mary Hogg
trade... farm servent
Hight...372
Head...large
Hair...gray
eyes...blue
nose...large at end
mouth...large
remarks...face wrinkled scar on left cheek
transportedd
for murder gaol report bad.single,
they could find no death registered for mary hogg.
ticket to leave jan 1847
enquiry made by ramsay and moll brampton date 13th 1879
single 1 child able to read/ height 5/2 age 67 tried 3rd aug 1841 /life
ramsay and moll request proof of death (1879) indicating the family knew she was dead??
her number given by the home office 39998.
hope this is of some help
janjan
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janjan
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just reread your original post think it says irthington north carlisle??
janjan
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Re: Mary Hogg
« Reply #12 on: Monday 03 August 09 12:52 UTC (UK) » |
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Hi Lettie,
in john hoggs will(1841) it says he bequests to mary his illegitimate daughter who at this time is my housekeeper and to her heis my freehold estate caller halfway house all bed linen and other household furniture in my house at pateshill ,it also says should mary call on my executors for wages for her services her bequest to be void.the will was written in 1836,janes name isnt on the headstone at irthington.
in marys brothers will (made in 1849/he died 1852)he leaves halfway house to his son he gives his niece jane five pound per annum from fordlands and five pounds per annum from halfway house but should his sister mary return from abroad and disposes my son william of halfway house it is my will and pleasure that both annuities cease,
it would be intresting to know what happened to jane i will look into it,
i havent looked at this branch of family for a while
janice
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