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matt94
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Oh right... I though Caleb was born out of marriage... Thanks for the information.
So Hannah Sellwood who married Anthony would be in Frilsham or Chieveley or Thatcham? I am going in today and tomorrow so have plenty of time for searches...
Tomorrow I am looking at apprenticeship Indentures of Reuben Thomas Smith & Charles Hope, Vicki... and hopefully a Tithe Map of Basildon Parish: I hope to find out where Henry & Lucy lived...
Matt
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I am researching....
Cutler Family, Bucks
Bennell Family, Bucks
Sellwood Family, Berks
Smith Family, Berks
Hardie Family, Lancs/Scotland
Fish Family, Yorks/Lincs
Banks Family, Worcs/Warwicks
Clements Family, Wilts/London
Briant Family, Berkshire
Knott Family, Berkshire
Darkins Family, Kent
Gadd Family, Lancs
Coffin Family, Lancs/Flint/Cheshire
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sally harris
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victoria,
I have found a john fisher and Ann Woodley with 10 children listed born between 1830 and1849 this would makw John and Sarah more likely to be Sarah's brother rather than his daughter
Sally
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sally harris
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Sorry Victoria must be another John Fisher and annWoodley-have now located a marriage for John and anne Woodley 19/11/1803 at Thatcham. However on Family search igi if you just fill in parents names and place name their is a list of 10 children from 1830-1849 fro John and AnnWoodley.
Sally
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matt94
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Hi all,
Haven't found Edward's baptism yet but will do tomorrow.
Re: Marriages at Bucklebury - you will have copies tomorrow, a woman hogged the machine when I needed to use it.
Not many Sellwood baptisms at Bucklebury, I must say. They had odd baptism patterns.. The eldest were baptised, the youngest weren't... odd children were just not baptised etc...
Attached Is a Christening Certificate from Speen. It is twin children of Stephen (son of Jonathan) Sellwood & his wife Mary Ann Smallbone. As you can see it says on it 'See Memorandum on the Back Hereof'... and there is writing leaking through the back.. so I want to look at the Speen Registers to see what is written on the back.
Matt
Ps my apologies for the coloring of the attached document... didn't come out too well.
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I am researching....
Cutler Family, Bucks
Bennell Family, Bucks
Sellwood Family, Berks
Smith Family, Berks
Hardie Family, Lancs/Scotland
Fish Family, Yorks/Lincs
Banks Family, Worcs/Warwicks
Clements Family, Wilts/London
Briant Family, Berkshire
Knott Family, Berkshire
Darkins Family, Kent
Gadd Family, Lancs
Coffin Family, Lancs/Flint/Cheshire
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sally harris
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Matt my thanks for the document.I'm sending you apicture of a sellwood wedding that was among grandad fishers photos.
The Mother of the bride is Mercy(Morton)sellwood-the father of the bride is John Sellwood son of Jonathon. However I don't know which of Mercy's daughters is the bride and whether the gentleman in the picture is the bride or grooms father.
The grooms pipe is a nice touch .
Sally
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matt94
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Sally, what children do you have for John Sellwood & Mercy Morton? I have children Peter, Lydia and Joshua. Am I looking at the wrong family 
Matt
Added - I hope you don't mind, Sally, I have posted this photograph to the dating board to see if anyone knows the rough date of it.
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I am researching....
Cutler Family, Bucks
Bennell Family, Bucks
Sellwood Family, Berks
Smith Family, Berks
Hardie Family, Lancs/Scotland
Fish Family, Yorks/Lincs
Banks Family, Worcs/Warwicks
Clements Family, Wilts/London
Briant Family, Berkshire
Knott Family, Berkshire
Darkins Family, Kent
Gadd Family, Lancs
Coffin Family, Lancs/Flint/Cheshire
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sally harris
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Matt,
I'm quite happy for you to get the picture dated.
Two people haveshared a tree with me.and I've gleaned what I can from both but have not checked the details.
John Sellwood m Mercy Morton in 1844 appaently he was a master cordwainer and lived in Peasemore he died in 1860
Children
Peter m S Rowles 1872
Lydia m William Cumner @Newbury Q2 1868/ m Charles FGibbs 1879
Joshua m Alice Hickson /m Anna Golding
Mercy m Tom CogswellQ1 1880@greenwich
Mark
John m Ellen Butler or Ellen Butcher the trees differ on this name
Mary
Both trees give the same names for the children.
I have based my assumption that the Lady is Mercy Morton Sewood on a picture I have of her when she was older.
Sally
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Vicwinann
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Re: bucklebury
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 19 August 09 08:13 UTC (UK) » |
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Sorry Victoria must be another John Fisher and annWoodley-have now located a marriage for John and anne Woodley 19/11/1803 at Thatcham. However on Family search igi if you just fill in parents names and place name their is a list of 10 children from 1830-1849 fro John and AnnWoodley.
Sally
Hello Sally,
There *were* two John and Ann Fishers, and I think the IGI submitter has them confused. The baptisms on IGI for children starting in Thatcham in 1830 to 1849 are all submitted ones. Those for Bucklebury are collected ones, as is one for Thomas Fisher 1804 Thatcham.
What I have is John Fisher bap 1779 died 1843 married Ann Woodley 1803 Thatcham (PRs). She died 1837 Bucklebury age 54 making a birth date abt 1783. If she was the woman giving birth to children in Thatcham in 1849 she would have been 66 years old! With a marriage in 1803 it is also highly unlikely (although possible) that a woman would be still having children in 1830 but certainly not in 1849.
I think, but have yet to prove that she was the Ann Woodley bap Bradfield 1786.
In 1841 John Fisher age 60 is in Bucklebury with a new wife? Ann age 45 (no marriage found so could be a relation) and dau Eliza age 30 next entry to John Hope 45 John Sellwood age 20 and Sarah Johnson age 30. Next door to that is Henry and Maria Hope. Maria is John Fisher's daughter, Henry is probably John Hope's son. John Fisher's dau Eliza had an illeg son, Robert, who throughout the censuses from 1841 to 1891 is living with John Hope and Maria, as is Eliza, as sister in law in 1851.
John Hope was witness at his sister-in-law Martha's marriage to Joseph Sellwood.
David Sellwood age 20 who married Charlotte Fisher is working for Robert Tidbury
The other John Sellwood age 30 who married Sarah Fisher in 1833 is just up the road with her and their family. Next entry Charlotte Fisher age 15 who appears to be a lodger or servant.
The John and Ann Fisher with the children from the submitted Thatcham baptisms is in Thatcham in 1851. He is age 56,born Thatcham she is age 46 born Newbury. This Ann would only just have been born in 1804. She would not have been having children in 1811 and neither would have John Fisher born abt 1795 .
I think this illustrates why one should not take submitted IGI's as fact until proven with other documents.
I have not found another Ann Woodley born abt 1804 anywhere, so I do not think this was the 2nd Ann's surname.
Yours
Vicwinann
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sally harris
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Re: bucklebury
« Reply #28 on: Wednesday 19 August 09 09:23 UTC (UK) » |
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the back of Mercys picture says photographed by H Harbut
Coles' Studio
143Bartholomew st
Newbury.
Sally
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matt94
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Re: bucklebury
« Reply #29 on: Wednesday 19 August 09 09:44 UTC (UK) » |
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Oh right.... that's why I didn't get the last few children of John & Mercy Sellwood... he died & the youngest 3 children were sent to the Morton Grandparents...
Living Holly Farm, Upper Bucklebury
MORTEN, John Head Married M 72 1789 Farmer of 150 Acres employing 3 Men & 2 Boys Bucklebury Berkshire
MORTEN, Sarah Wife Married F 75 1786 Farmers Wife Bucklebury Berkshire
SELLWOOD, Mary Granddaughter Married F 37 1824 Late Farmers Wife Bucklebury Berkshire
SELLWOOD, Susan Granddaughter Unmarried F 9 1852 Late Farmers Dau Bucklebury
Berkshire
SELLWOOD, Mark Grandson M 5 1856 Bucklebury Berkshire
SELLWOOD, John Grandson M 3 1858 Bucklebury Berkshire
SELLWOOD, Mary Granddaughter F 0 (4M) 1861 Thatcham Berkshire
DEVINY, Henry Servant M 15 1846 Carter Boy Thatcham Berkshire
BLEE, John Servant M 12 1849 Carter Boy Bucklebury Berkshire
Vicki - Will check nontheless, the writing leaking through the back of the baptism cert looks to be all over the back so there may be more details of family relationships etc etc etc.
I will email you again later Vicki with more info.
Matt
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I am researching....
Cutler Family, Bucks
Bennell Family, Bucks
Sellwood Family, Berks
Smith Family, Berks
Hardie Family, Lancs/Scotland
Fish Family, Yorks/Lincs
Banks Family, Worcs/Warwicks
Clements Family, Wilts/London
Briant Family, Berkshire
Knott Family, Berkshire
Darkins Family, Kent
Gadd Family, Lancs
Coffin Family, Lancs/Flint/Cheshire
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