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macintosh
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I am trying to find the date of death of William Harker dob poss. March 1901, He died around 1960 in Middlesbrough and was buried from the Cannon St. area .
To my knowledge he had no next of kin and was a former prisoner of war in German Silesia.
Thanks James
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madpants
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According to Tees Valley indexes there are 4 William Harkers deaths in M'bro between 1958 and 1977.
Looking at the deaths indexes (all Middlesbrough or Cleveland reg district)
Mar Q 1958 age 52 William Harker M'bro 1b 949
June Q 1968 age 58 William A Harker M'bro 1b 677
Dec Q 1972 DOB 12 March 1901 William Harker Cleveland 1b 1832
Sept Q 1977 DOB 29 Dec 1902 William Harker C Cleveland 3 2032
I would say from the DOB yours was number 3  If you ring Middlesbrough cemeteries office they should be able to tell you where he is.
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GREENWELL - Middlesbrough
TURNBULL - Houghton le Spring, Coxhoe, Spennymoor
DEVEY - Pentonville, Stockton, M'bro
MOHAN/HUN - Stockton on Tees
SCRAFTON - Darlington
BROADBENT - Saddleworth, Ashton Under Lyne
HEMSWELL - Grantham, M'bro
SIMPKINS - M'bro
SIMPKIN - Little Wratting, Suffolk
MALLALIEU - Saddleworth, Ashton U L
GOODWIN - Macclesfield Forest
SUTCLIFFE - Heptonstall, Ashton U L
PLIMMER - Pontesbury, Ashton U L
CAMBRIDGE - Goulborne, Ashton U L
SIDDALL - Ashton U L
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macintosh
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Madpants (what a handle!)
Thanks for your reply and the info supplied, I am now in a quandary, as it seems the one I thought it was may not now be him.
I can certainly ignore the last two on your list and I am now leaning to the first one, I was under the impression "my one" had died after 1960 when I joined the army.
I even have a Birth Cert from M'Bro Reg Office for the third one, though his death date now looks likely he is not the one.
This is becoming more intrigueing, This man was always on the periphery of my family and my mother always said he was her cousin, though I can't find any Harkers in the Family Tree. I remember him when I was a boy, and at one stage he even stayed at my aunts in the fifties and was buried from her house in Cannon St.
Is it probable he was illegitimate? would his birth Cert indicate that? date of Death and age suggests that he was born in 1906, my maternal grandmother was 17 in 1905, single and alone in Middlesbrough, her parents had returned to Glasgow, am I being to suspicious?
I have a photo of him in the Peshawar area of the North West Frontier in 1927, he is not in uniform, though he was in the army, sadly I dont have a regiment or a regimental number so that avenue is closed, this guy is becoming an enigma.
Ist it possible to check out the Birth Cert for the first one? Are the Tees Valley indexes available or do I have to go to the Registry Office?.
Sorry for the tome
Many thanks
James
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madpants
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Tees Valley indexes are very helpful in as much as you can email them and ask a qustion they they can answer yes or no to. eg 'is the mothers maiden name smith' this helps you avoid buying the wrong cert.
http://www.middlesbrough-indexes.co.uk/search.php
Looking on freeBMD all the William harkers born 1906 were in the Durham/Northumberland area.
If we widen the net to Guisborough births between 1900 and 1910 there are
William Tindale Harker June Q 1901 Middlesbrough 9d 628 (or Guisborough R S 052 0 0477) I think this is the William that married a Minnie Tweddle in 1923.
One other in Guisborough
According to Tees valley 1902 but freeBMD has him March Q 1903
William Harker Guisboro 9d 484 (Guisborough R O SKE6 0 206)
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GREENWELL - Middlesbrough
TURNBULL - Houghton le Spring, Coxhoe, Spennymoor
DEVEY - Pentonville, Stockton, M'bro
MOHAN/HUN - Stockton on Tees
SCRAFTON - Darlington
BROADBENT - Saddleworth, Ashton Under Lyne
HEMSWELL - Grantham, M'bro
SIMPKINS - M'bro
SIMPKIN - Little Wratting, Suffolk
MALLALIEU - Saddleworth, Ashton U L
GOODWIN - Macclesfield Forest
SUTCLIFFE - Heptonstall, Ashton U L
PLIMMER - Pontesbury, Ashton U L
CAMBRIDGE - Goulborne, Ashton U L
SIDDALL - Ashton U L
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madpants
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Ooooh here's a lesson to always check the indexes 
William T died aged 59 Dec Q 1960 Cleveland 1b 707
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GREENWELL - Middlesbrough
TURNBULL - Houghton le Spring, Coxhoe, Spennymoor
DEVEY - Pentonville, Stockton, M'bro
MOHAN/HUN - Stockton on Tees
SCRAFTON - Darlington
BROADBENT - Saddleworth, Ashton Under Lyne
HEMSWELL - Grantham, M'bro
SIMPKINS - M'bro
SIMPKIN - Little Wratting, Suffolk
MALLALIEU - Saddleworth, Ashton U L
GOODWIN - Macclesfield Forest
SUTCLIFFE - Heptonstall, Ashton U L
PLIMMER - Pontesbury, Ashton U L
CAMBRIDGE - Goulborne, Ashton U L
SIDDALL - Ashton U L
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macintosh
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Thanks for all your help Madpants, it can be so frustrating and without people like on these boards, totally unproductive.
I'll try the middlesbrough indexes as you suggest.
Thanks
James
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julieriddiough
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hiya any chance you could post the photo you have, a family friends grandfather was called william harker but he lived in the east cleveland, brotton/saltburn area, he would be about the same age too, i have a photo of him if its the same one
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Brotton History Website - www.communigate.co.uk/ne/brottonhistoryRIDDIOUGH FAMILY - www.riddiough.comRiddiough - Brotton, Shipley Trinder - Berkshire, Loftus Marsay - Whitby, Brotton, Boosbeck Yeoman - Whitby, Loftus, Brotton Harris - Loftus, Devon Sibly - Cornwall, Brotton Spargo - Devon Pulford - West Yorkshire Ward - Loftus Leach - Shipley, Baildon, Saltaire |
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macintosh
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Hi Julieriddiough,
Just new to the site, and will try to work out how to post the photo some time over the weekend, however this photo is on a postcard for posting back home, though the post card is unused so probably sent in an envelope. The photo was taken in Peshawar, India where the soldiers went on R&R away from the heat of the North West Frontier.
It shows Billy Harker in a studio setting dressed as a cowboy in wooly chaps, checked shirt and holster and belt, however his army boots can be seen underneath the wooly chaps, my guess is as it is taken in 1927 the costume would be of the silent film hero of the time, Tom Mix or someone similar.
As I said before Billy is a bit of an enigma and info on him rather sketchy.
James
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macintosh
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Julieriddiough,
I tried the attachment, but each time I was given "an error has occurred"
If you attach the photo you have I will confirm if it is the same or not.
Or you can pm me and I will reply with the attachment.
James
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madpants
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You can attach images to this thread but when you click on the attach images button they have to be within the guidelines shown
Allowed file types: txt, rtf, jpg, jpeg, gif, tif, pdf, mpg, png, ged
Maximum attachment size allowed: 500 KB
Test pic (a previous Avatar) it's small, 8.5 kb and sourced from 'my pictures' on my comp
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GREENWELL - Middlesbrough
TURNBULL - Houghton le Spring, Coxhoe, Spennymoor
DEVEY - Pentonville, Stockton, M'bro
MOHAN/HUN - Stockton on Tees
SCRAFTON - Darlington
BROADBENT - Saddleworth, Ashton Under Lyne
HEMSWELL - Grantham, M'bro
SIMPKINS - M'bro
SIMPKIN - Little Wratting, Suffolk
MALLALIEU - Saddleworth, Ashton U L
GOODWIN - Macclesfield Forest
SUTCLIFFE - Heptonstall, Ashton U L
PLIMMER - Pontesbury, Ashton U L
CAMBRIDGE - Goulborne, Ashton U L
SIDDALL - Ashton U L
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macintosh
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Thanks Madpants,
Next time I will try your guidelines, although the one I was trying to attach was only postcard size and was from mydocuments, mypics in a tif format.
Anyhow the lady who wanted to see it sent me a pm and I sent it via email.
Thanks James
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Ragnarson
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I am related to William Harker of Loftus. He is in the Tees Valley index. He comes under the Guisborough office. Born around 1906 if I remember rightly.
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macintosh
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Ragnarson,
Thanks for your reply on this subject, Can you tell me how you are related to this WILLIAM HARKER? Do you have the names of his parents?
I have looked at the Guisborough entries and I don't think either of these are the one I was looking for, unless you can give me some info that may convince me otherwise, was your man in the army during the late 1920s and in India, was he a P.O.W on ww2, did he marry and have children? Any of this information that matched would convince me to buy another Birth Cert, but so far the ones I have bought have not been the "key" to further investigation.
Many thanks for your reply to my original query.
James
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Ragnarson
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Hi James. Sorry but I got my dates wrong! This William Harker came from the Brotton area. His grandson is my great grandfather John Thomas Harker! who was born in 1906 at Loftus.This William is on the 1861 census.
Regards,
Reg.
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macintosh
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Reg,
Thanks for your input, I appreciate that you took time to answer my original query.
Thanks
James
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