Meg7
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Hi Karen and Lu,
The still missing, like his father John, Myles Murdoch McInnes was registered as born in Balranald in 1875 so really they moved between 1872 and 1875. But of course if Maria, with her mother dying in 1871 at Young, might have stayed behind for a year or so especially if Emily was sickly. John might have moved earlier to set up for his family. There is a four-year gap between Emily and Myles which supports that could have happened.
Meg
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Meg7
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Hi Kren and Lu,
Some times I really do find things.
I am going out but thought I that I had better post this from a 15 August 2002 email.
Hi Lee,
Thank you for the information.
Well, I did it. I rang.
BRAVE WOMAN - "CAUSE OF DEATH - CARDIAC ARREST FROM A TELEPHONE CALL FROM XXXX"
She is old, from Sydney so probably born there. There was a Alice who wrote to her several months ago about a McInnes connection but she didn't bother to answer so if anyone else tells you that it might be good to get details on Alice.
OKAY NOTED
OK what I got was she thought her dead husband's father was Lachlan.
Later after much talk she went and got her marriage certificate and it was Myles Murdoch and he seems to have had a third given name and it could be Laclan but she said it was too hard to read (the first two were clear but whoever wrote it was running out of space so he squashed the third name up). He was a Linotyper. Her husband was known as Mac as he hated Myles (the elder sisters had a pet name for him but he never let her know that - must have been bad!). He was born in NZ in Dunedin (which we knew). She said he was an "after thought". He had a sister 18 years older and another 12 years older.
The family came to Sydney from NZ when Mac was about 3. They were there for six years and his father died there (number 313, 1928; Father Bernard). They moved to Melbourne. Mac was in the war and she remembered when he came home from the Middle East and the Islands he said he dropped in to see his uncle in Qld (no name).
She said she had other things on her mind at the time but he had no family around at all. After the war the husband of the surviving sister was called back to NZ so his mother (Blanch) went with them.
(She said her name on the marriage certificate was Blanch Madeline.)
She also said that she thought that there was a Balranald (NSW) connection somewhere with the family but Mac certainly was not aware of any cousins/relations he had anywhere except the uncle. She also commented on the unusual Spelling of Myles (always with a "y").
I did a search for anyone with a father of Bernard in NSW births but got nothing. Dunedin is a very Scottish place in NZ.
I didn't like to ask for the names of the sisters. She said they were both long dead. She is very clear but I guess there really is no information about the McInneses in the family to get.
Don't suppose you can find out where the "Bernard" came from in your family?" 
Talk to you both later
Meg
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karenoz
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hi girls,
i got letter back from Marjorie and she rack her brains over the weekend and only could remember hearing her grandfather dieing about 1915 but couldnt say where in sydney or mel bourne dunedin.
well done Meg, it all fits :-)
i wander where this Alice fits in?
thanks
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Meg7
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Hi Karen and Lu,
Yes, it does make sense and the name Bernard in Lee's family and the Romsey bit. So we know for certain that John's children had contact with Lachlan Campbell McInnes's family because they added Bernard in their names and some of their uncles and aunts because of the Romsey bit. (I tried to take a photo of the photo of Sarah as the book is out of print but it didn't really come out so I need to get a good copy of it somehow.) 
So Myles Murdoch Lachlan McInnes got his wife's father's name as his father and Betty's son thought the mother had died when his father was a school boy but it was his father. Glad we are not researching Smith 
That entry says Myles M.; should have realized.
Alice well, I guess Betty thought I was Alice ringing to what had happened to her letter and that is why she mentioned it.
If Alice is on the right track there is some else out there looking for your family Karen.
Meg.
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karenoz
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hi Meg,
so bernard is on both sides, cause bernard was maria myles mothers father was bernard quinn died in young in 1849.
thanks
karen
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Lucy2
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Hi Karen and Meg
Well ... there's only the death of John McINNES to find now.
Is that right ? 
Hmmm ... inclined to go with Karen, on the "Bernard" name coming from the QUINN side of the family ?
Lu
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Meg7
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Hi Karen and Lu,
Yes it must come from the Quinn line. But the fact that one of the other McInnes children used it suggests, to me, that they had had contact with Lachlan Campbell McInnes.
Hey John used the name Godfrey from that family in naming one son so them using Bernard makes sense.
As you said Lu now to find John's death.
If nothing comes out of the Randwick home it might be worth getting a transcript of Myles Murdoch's death certificate just to see if there is any information that can be used.
Meg.
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karenoz
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on john mcinnes
think the answers lie in balranald somewhere.
i dont think we would find anything on myles m death as he hasnt even put down his mother and has his father down as bernard, think i better trying godfreys death seeing he was older brother.
great going tho.
karen
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Meg7
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Hi Karen,
I sincerely hope Myles didn't fill out his own death certificate. Good point about the mother's name missing. Blanche probably gave the information anyway. I just thought being in Sydney there might have been relatives around or he might have been buried with family members and if we had the date we might be able to look for notices in the newspapers or other graves.
Still think wait and see if there is any information in the home records.
It is possible that Ernest had a third name and used that and this is why we can't find him. 
Meg.
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karenoz
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hi girls,
i found ernest in the anc---- living in victoria from 1914-1936
a death for a ernest in 1951 and another in 1968 in vic.
there is also one for a ernest john mcinnes in QLD capricrnia in 1936.
can anyone check these out.
i keep thinking maybe he died with his father in some horrified accident in balranald.
karen
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Lucy2
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Hi Karen
WOW !
So ... is his full name (Ernest Nerney McINNES) given on these records ?
Lu
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karenoz
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sadly no just Ernest McInnes , just hopeful one of them could be him.
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Lucy2
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Hi Karen
Pity eh ?
But can rule out the 1951 - Ernest McINNES - death.
(Presume this is the one registered at Corryong ?)
1951 - Ernest McINNES
s/o Alexander McINNES and Eizabeth HAMILTON
[This info was found by Meg  when we were checking out the "Ernest McINNES" WW1 enlistments - see earlier post (somewhere in this VERY long thread )
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