Lucy2
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Hmmm .... the 1968 VIC death might be the son of this 1951 Ernest ?
Has it, (1968) got a Wangaratta rego ?
Lu
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karenoz
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hi, just had a reply from Marjorie.
quote = I cant see why my grandfather would have used a different name. I recall they were quite prominent citizens and he left enough money so the family did not have to worry when he died. Thus my mother staying hme and looking after the family. But, who knows?
Yes, the email you received tied up with what i told you, and I do recall his preference for being called Mac. My mother used to call him Mylie.
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Lucy2
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Hi Karen 
Just reading back through all these snippets of information, (and considering the possibility that Ernest was adopted), I get a sense that Myles Murdoch may have been put in the care of another member of the McINNES family (and was raised by them) ?
* Were there other McINNES's from Balranald (who are part of this family) ? (Where does "Lachlan Campbell McINNES fit in the picture ?)
Myles Murdoch has retained his birthname - seems he knows who his own parents were - even if he had been separated from them ? (I'm presuming he had their names correctly on his NZ marriage cert. ?)
"Roll out those records from Randwick" ! (Just hope there will be some dates and other clues). 
Lu
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karenoz
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YES lu, MEG Has that enfo on Lachan McInnes.
and yes on the myles murdoch, has the right parents john and maria quinn,so he did know that much.
yes i understand you when you say reading back on snippets. my note book is getting rather full!
karen
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Meg7
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Hi Karen and Lu,
He probably had Lachlan as a third name because that side of the family (where the Myles name originally came from) being Christy McInnes's side can usually be "found" by the name Lachlan.
I have just, after many years of searching, found Margaret Eliza McInnes in the US. She married Edwin Levi Crowell and vanished from Victoria in about 1867 with her family. Her son Myles born in 1858 became Godfrey Myles. There was no sign of the name Godfrey until he got to the US but there he is on the 1870 census listed as Godfrey Myles Crowell.
Lachlan Campbell McInnes and his sister Margaret Eliza McInnes came with John (who we are looking for) and his parents (Murdoch McInnes and Christy McInnes) on the Marco Polo. They were first cousins of John. Another uncle and aunt and family being Donald McInnes brother of Christy McInnes were also on the Marco Polo.
Myles father of LCM and Margaret Eliza had re-married and the two eldest children of his first marriage emigrated with family members. The two younger sons that stayed on Skye were Godfrey who came to Sth Aus later and died there in 1912 and John Miles McInnes who ended up in Cornwall.
LCM fell down the railway cutting at Nth Melbourne in 1876 and was killed.  They did a public subscription, via newspaper, for the widow (Margaret) and his young family.
When one of the children died or married the father's name was given as Godfrey not LCM. Lee and I think that the uncle Godfrey came from Sth Aus to help out when his bother was killed. (Godfrey never married.) The eldest son Alexander of LCM and the money they got from the public kept the family together in this case. (This is Lee's line.)
To add to the confusion Sarah Ann McInnes dau. of Murdoch and Christy born 1855 Melbourne married Lachlan Campbell and they lived at Romsey at Glenbride Park. They were very, very well off (had servants). Murdoch and Christy lived in Melbourne city for the entire time and were very well off.
Meg.
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karenoz
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hi, got a file from the Benevolent asylum saying=
Admitted
Ernest J McInnes 15th may released 10 june 1877
Maria 15th may 10 june
Ellen christina 15 may 16 july sent to randwick asylum
Godfrey Bernard 15 may 16 july
Andrew john 15 may 16 july
where did Myles Murdoch go over this time,has he gone to live with his grandfather Bernard Quinn.
still waiting on the file for Godfrey in randwick to come back.
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Lucy2
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Hi Karen
Ooops ... still haven't answered your last PM ... will do shortly.
Need to read through this thread again too to refresh my memory.
Lu
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karenoz
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hi Lu, yes he must of being close as he and his 2nd wife are buried in the catholic cemetery at rockwood,sydney.
Bernard Quinn Died 1900 m 1874 Anne theresa Byrnes died 1897
yes myles could of being taken to another asylum being what just over 1yr.
hmm if he was adopted or fostered they would of changed his name which he didnt.
thanks
karen
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karenoz
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note he Bernard has buried his 2nd wife before Maria has died 1899 all at the same cemetery.
weather he has come to be close by to his daughter,dont know
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matnix
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Hi Karen Pity eh ? But can rule out the 1951 - Ernest McINNES - death. (Presume this is the one registered at Corryong ?) 1951 - Ernest McINNES s/o Alexander McINNES and Eizabeth HAMILTON [This info was found by Meg when we were checking out the "Ernest McINNES" WW1 enlistments - see earlier post (somewhere in this VERY long thread  ) Lu Hi Lucy i would be interested in any info about the above person as he is a relative, his parents names were alexander mcinnes and eliza hamilton, thanks Nikki |
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Lucy2
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Hi Nikki
... welcome to RootsChat.
The "Ernest McINNES - parents Alexander McINNES / Elizabeth (Eliza ?) HAMILTON" was a name which was checked out whilst we were searching in this thread, for another Ernest McINNES. So, sorry to say, I don't have any additional information I can give you.
I would suggest though, that you post a query to the RootsChat Australian board ... they will be better able to assist you with OZ records.
Best wishes.
Lu
~ in NZ
PS - Adding some links for you ... see next posting > >
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Lucy2
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Hi again Nikki
You might like to view digital copies of Australian War records for two named Ernest McINNES (I think, father and son ? - though I haven't read through these files in great detail so can't confirm.)
http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/explore/defence/service-records/index.aspx
Click on >> "WW1" (Australian Army)
>> scroll to "name search"
In search box enter "McINNES" >> then in "refine search" - add the name "Ernest" : (It brings up three records )
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Lucy2
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WW1 - Ernest McINNES - b. Wangaratta
aged 40 years and 3 months at time of enlistment 1915.
Next of Kin : (Looks like ? a son named "Donald ... McINNES as 1st entry ? Then sister Mrs Annie KING of Benambra, via Omeo, VIC. Says also this Ernest was divorced from wife).
Also on following WW2 link you can see Ernest McINNES (b. 8 August 1900 at Towong) - Next of Kin: Alexander (father).
http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/
Good luck ... hope you find what you're looking for.
Lu
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matnix
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Hi Lucy
thanks for the info. i thought i got another member of the family. but it looks like heaps of info for me
regards Nikki
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