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Topic: BBC TV "WDYTYA?" Series 7 Episode #2: Chris Moyles (Read 2973 times)
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LizzieW
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Thoroughly enjoyed it. I found it much more interesting than the ones where they found rich or Royal ancestors. I could related much more to this one as I have ancestors who died as young parents from TB, children dying from diarrhoea etc. most living in the slums in Yorkshire, which I guess weren't quite so bad as the ones in Ireland.
I also related to him finding out about his g.grandfather in WWI, I was quite upset when I found out that my g.uncle (who I hadn't known existed) had been killed in WWI and more so in that he doesn't even have a grave, just his name on a monument.
Lucky people with Irish ancestors being able to view 1911 census for Free.
Lizzie
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BENSON- Dalton in Furness (Ulverston) and Hull
BETTISON - Derbys
BOULTON - Dalton-in-Furness and surrounding areas
BRAND - Lincs
COCKETT - Lincs, Yorks, Lancs
DA COSTA (or variants) - Spain or Portugal, London (Middx), ?Hull
GILCHRIST - Scotland, Lincs
HINGLEY - Derbys/Yorks
MANN - Sussex, Kent, Herts
MUMBY - Lincolnshire and Hull
PEMBERTON - Ches, Lancashire
STANTON - Lincs
ROBINSON - Lincs
WHITTAKER/WHITAKER - Ches/Lancs
WRIGHT- Bethnal Green
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Lydart
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Great Granny Williams, the Dorset button maker
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I'd never heard of this chap, but it was an interesting programme about ordinary people living the hard, hard lives 90% of our ancestors did ...
Matthew Pinsents programme a couple of years ago was one of my favourites, because he seemed so ordinary and nice, even though he was from a slightly more priviledged family than many of us ... and as Poll said, his ancestry went back quite a way (though the God bit was somewhat tongue in cheek !)
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Dorset/Wilts/Hants: Trowbridge, Williams, Sturney, Prince, Foyle, Fripp, Triggle ... and more C'wall/Devon/CANADA (The Cariboo, B.C.): Pomeroy Som'set: Clark(e) Durham: Law London: Poplett Lancs/Cheshire/CANADA (B.C.): Stubbs, Walmesley WRITE LETTERS FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS TO TREASURE ... EMAILS DISAPPEAR FOREVER ! Census information Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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thornhill121
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G.G.Grandfather John Beck 1903
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get a few details from the person in question
do all the research
set up the programme with various mysteries and unanswered questions for the participant
have all the experts on hand
then just film it all, with the reactions shown just as they happen, in a relatively short period of time
IgorStrav, Chris was talking to Davina McCall last week and he said that they film it all in 1 week, they aren't told what information they are going to find, they don't know what is in the envelopes they are handed etc.
I agree with the other comments this series seems much better than the last one, I hope it continues in the vein.
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Thornhill Beeston Notts, Belton Notts, Searle Lincs/Notts, Cooper Notts, Creet Notts
Beck Dumfriesshire
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lesleyhannah
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I think this was one of my favourite episodes. Because I've never heard of Chris Moyles I had no prior expectations. Many programmes feature celebrities with backgrounds a million miles from my own, but the conditions Chris Moyles' ancestors lived in were much the same as many of my family experienced in Hull, Liverpool and Scotland.
Like other people have said, I also really empathised with his reactions to the unexpected information he kept finding - and wasn't it great to see a celebrity who was genuinely moved?
It was also good to see a bit of the spadework we all have to do, like searching censuses and obtaining BMD certificates. The programme really seems to have returned to its roots.
I think the contrast with last week's programme was very good - I do like to see different backgrounds represented too. I hope they keep up the good work.
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Petros
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Interesting comments but our feeling was that, like all of the last series (which was what it was originally filmed as part of) that it focused too much on social history at the expense of family history.
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IgorStrav
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Arthur Pay 1915-2002 "handsome bu**er"
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But Petros, isn't it all about social history really?
I have found that in my research, I have put names to slots on my tree, but it is all the additional information
numbers of children dying from one census to another
numbers of people living in the same house
occupations - ag labs, ag labs, ag labs in my case, never getting much further with sons following fathers
deaths and remarriages, sometimes very quickly afterwards because of very young children
and then when you get the certificates, finding out the tb, the long term illnesses, or the very short term cholera that did for the person.
It's turned for me always from the person to the context they lived in.
That's why I'm so admiring of what my ancestors went through.
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Pay, Kent. Barham, Kent. Cork(e), Kent. Cooley, Kent. Barwell, Rutland/Northants/Greenwich. Cotterill, Derbys. Van Steenhoven, Belgium/East London. Burton, East London. Wade, Greenwich/Brightlingsea, Essex.
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Nick29
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Well, I wasn't a fan of Chris Moyles before the programme, and I still wasn't after sitting through it. Although the programme featured some quite moving parts relating to Ypres in WW1, I thought that Moyles' whole approach to the subject quite juvenile.
As others have already said, this was more about social history than genealogy. It won't go down as one of the better programmes in my book, especially with all the dumbed down stuff relating to the faxing of certificates. It is really making the whole concept of genealogy appear far too easy....... if only ! 
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Best Wishes, Nick. Research interests: Field - Luton & Islington Hole - Somerset, Suffolk & Surrey Farnish, Parker, Cattermole, Last, Wasp, Church - Suffolk Lewin/Lowin/Lowen - Hertfordhire Martin - Eltham & Greenwich, Kent (London) Stead - Greenwich, London (Kent) & Maidstone Wood - Hertfordshire Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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shanew147
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I thouroughly enjoyed WDYTYA. Im not a fan of Chris Moyles, but he came across as a relatively normal chap.....loved the fact that his surname means "bald"!!! Like Thornhill121 mentioned earlier, it would be interesting to know if any of the other "celebs" continued with what they, or the BBC had discovered. He seemed to have caught the geneology bug like the rest of us! I also have Irish ancestors and have found it very hard to access records, so I was astonishly surprised to see that you can search and have access to the 1911 Irish census FREE OF CHARGE!! http://www.census.nationalarchives.ieLast series was such a disappointment, but with series 7, so far so good.  Hazel
thanks to the National Archives of Ireland for that!
currently 1911 census data for nine counties is online. The other counties and the 1901 data is due later this year.
back to the original topic ... I thought that the Chris Moyles WDYTYA was a good episode... bit of a change with the soldiers, city slums and workhouse after Davina's ancestors.
Shane
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Wilson : Cambridgeshire [Chatteris], Yorkshire [Leeds], Dublin & Australia [Sydney/NSW] | Fitzsimon : Bray, Co. Wicklow & South Co. Dublin
Hayes, Shepherd, Bickerdike, Render, Harper : Yorkshire | Doyle, Dillon, Cantwell, Roach, Clarke : Co. Wicklow
Cathcart, Wilson : Kings Co./Offaly, Dublin City & N. Ireland | Hodges : Bristol, Glos./Bray Co. Wicklow/Dublin City | Nevin : Cork
Sheridan : Dublin City | Kavanagh, Rooney, Clarke, Hughes, May, Monks : North Co. Dublin [Rush/Thomastown]
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stonechat
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Likewise did not watch live due to Midsomer Murders
Watched on iPlayer
It was good.
JUst wish I had these convenient experts to explain the miliary battlefield, the historical background etc.
Bob
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Nick29
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I don't think Moyles's reaction was really juvenile - I thought he sometimes giggled or made weak jokes etc because he was embarrassed about how moved he was. The tears looked real enough to me.
The futility of it should have us all in tears. I'm always moved and angered that so many young lives were lost defending a few hundred yards of farm land. I wasn't impressed that Moyles seemed to think that the only profession worthy of mention in his book was a soldier. This episode was left over from the previous series, and was delayed because Moyles kept going on about it on his radio show.
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Best Wishes, Nick. Research interests: Field - Luton & Islington Hole - Somerset, Suffolk & Surrey Farnish, Parker, Cattermole, Last, Wasp, Church - Suffolk Lewin/Lowin/Lowen - Hertfordhire Martin - Eltham & Greenwich, Kent (London) Stead - Greenwich, London (Kent) & Maidstone Wood - Hertfordshire Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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LizzieW
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I wasn't impressed that Moyles seemed to think that the only profession worthy of mention in his book was a soldier.
I don't think it was, it was just that was what the BBC chose to concentrate on because lots of us can relate to losing an ancestor in WWI. He was also interested in his gran and her job in the biscuit factory. I would have liked to know what happened to his gran's other two siblings when she was sent to Ireland to live with her gran. Did they stay in Aldershot with dad, or were they farmed out to a different gran - his parents maybe?
Lizzie
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BENSON- Dalton in Furness (Ulverston) and Hull
BETTISON - Derbys
BOULTON - Dalton-in-Furness and surrounding areas
BRAND - Lincs
COCKETT - Lincs, Yorks, Lancs
DA COSTA (or variants) - Spain or Portugal, London (Middx), ?Hull
GILCHRIST - Scotland, Lincs
HINGLEY - Derbys/Yorks
MANN - Sussex, Kent, Herts
MUMBY - Lincolnshire and Hull
PEMBERTON - Ches, Lancashire
STANTON - Lincs
ROBINSON - Lincs
WHITTAKER/WHITAKER - Ches/Lancs
WRIGHT- Bethnal Green
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