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Wildlady
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John Samuel Morris's birth
« on: Thursday 23 July 09 23:23 UTC (UK) »
I wondering is John Samuel Morris's parents Charles Morris and Emily Rye?  I had a look at the ancestry website that I saw about John Samuel Morris's date of birth was September 1858, Northampton, Vol 3b and page 53.

I have got Samuel John Morris, but unable to find his date of birth, unable to order a cerficate, becasue at the moment, I have got his date of birth was 31st December 1859 at Irthlingborough which i got from the family search website. 

perhaps his name was the wrong way around, should be Samuel John Morris, if it him or not.  let me know about it please

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CaroleW
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Re: John Samuel Morris's birth
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 23 July 09 23:54 UTC (UK) »
Hi

The IGI record is a submitted entry which are frequently unreliable.  I suspect the date is meant to be his christening date - not his birth date

If he was b 31.12.1859 his birth would only have been registered in the March qtr of 1860 yet there is no birth reg for a John Samuel or a Samuel John
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Re: John Samuel Morris's birth
« Reply #2 on: Friday 24 July 09 16:22 UTC (UK) »
Where is your John Samuel/Samuel John living in the census?

If you have his marriage certificate that will name his father.
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Wildlady
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Re: John Samuel Morris's birth
« Reply #3 on: Friday 24 July 09 18:08 UTC (UK) »
Hi Carol W,

thanks for your reply, possibly that John Samuel/ Samuel John's christening dates. So I will find out about it soon at Northamptonshire Record office. I've tried to find his date of birth few times, but unable to find it. I've got his marriage and death cerificate. his parents was Charles Morris and Emily Rye, at Irthlingborough, Northampton.

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Wildlady
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Re: John Samuel Morris's birth
« Reply #4 on: Friday 24 July 09 18:28 UTC (UK) »
Hi Megeneas,

Thanks for your reply. I have got Samuel John Morris's marriage cerificate, he was married Mary Jane Meakins on 25th Dec 1891 at the parish church, Irthlingborough, Northampton. His father was Charles Morris.  In the census
1891, Irthlingborough, Northamptonshire.  Samuel John was living with his mother, Emily, she was widow. His father Charles died on 14th April 1880.  I was wondering and checked about John Samuel's birth if it him or not, but I dont think it not him, becasue his name was samuel John. I will find out his baptisms at Northampton Record office soon.

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Re: John Samuel Morris's birth
« Reply #5 on: Friday 24 July 09 19:07 UTC (UK) »
He seems to have been born before Charles and Emily married

There is a registration in Wellingborough district for
Samuel John RYE 4th Q 1858 ref 3b 132

and this seems to be a sibling
William Charles Morris RYE 1st Q 1860 also in Wellingborough
3b 148

Charles MORRIS and Emily RYE are 4th Q 1863
3b 344 Wellingborough
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Re: John Samuel Morris's birth
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 25 July 09 15:12 UTC (UK) »
I think we have already covered this information for Valerie here.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/05pl/

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