erin31
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My grandfather Robert Amos played football for Blyth Spartans and Bolton Wanderers sometime at the begining of the century. Sorry I don't have any dates.
I have an old news paper clipping which states that he was called Demon, on the pitch.
I have contacted both clubs to see if they have any information or photographs of him without luck, so think he must of played for the reserves.
Does anyone know where else I can look where there may be photograph or information on players from the above area's?
Also my Uncles Bob & Jack Amos both played for Winlaton football club, I should think around the 1940's to 1960's. Does anyone have any old photographs of this clud.
Thanks.
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c-side
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Hi Erin,
Blyth library have copies of all the back numbers of the local paper - that's possibly where your cuttings came from.
Can't say about Bolton Wanderers.
Christine
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Gadget
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Hi erin
I have a book of all players in the Football League from it's beginnings to 1939. This would include Bolton.
I'm away from home at the moment but, if no one has found any informaion for you by next weekend, I'll look him up.
Gadget
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c-side
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Just been thinking - I will be out and about on Monday so could probably call in at Blyth library and see if there's anything in the indexes, if that's any good?
Christine
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erin31
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Christine that would be fantastic. Thank you so much.
The article I read was actually in the Blaydon Courier when he died in 1957. I am not even sure when he played as my mum who was his youngest child was born in 1934 well after he had stopped playing and she herself only knows the minimum.
I so wished I had asked more questions when I was younger and had more relatives around to answer them.
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c-side
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At least knowing when he was born gives a window to search.
After 1914 he could have been fighting in WW1 so possibly playing from about 1905 until then.
I will report back 
Christine
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Michael Dixon
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erin,
Blyth Spartans has own web site blythspartansafc.co.uk
It does contain a list of past players- but only in recent times. In it's "Archived Results" section it lists results of matches from 1901. It lists some scorers for some matches- but hit and miss._ and I didn't see any goals scored by an Amos ( but of course he could have been a defender ? )
Many " big" clubs have archives of past players in their websites , but rare for any of them to have a 100% list.
I have a list of all Sunderland's players from 1890, but that is within a book, and not from online list. Author got his data from newspapers of the day.
When I am in Newcastle Library browsing family history stuff, I regular rub shoulders with a chap perusing old newspapers for results and players of Newcastle United from the year Dot. I suggested that maybe getting the info from the club would save him a lot of time. He laughed at me for thinking that football clubs might have employed historians/archivists in their early days.
And Blyth is and always was a "small" team, compared to the "big boys"
The local paper, The Blyth News did cover every Blyth Spartans match from early times. The reporters who wrote up matches always went under the name " Crofter" ( based on the name of Blyth ground.. i.e. Croft Park)
The Blyth News was twice-weekly. So if you are going to browse the films in Blyth Library, you will not have to do five or six papers per week.
Trivia.
On 4th August to celebrate the centenary of Croft Park, Blyth will host Newcastle Utd- kick off 7.30 p.m.
Does your newpaper clippings not give you any clues about date or team for Robert Amos ?
Be aware that some footballers "egg" up their exploits on the pitch, after their career has ended.
Michael Dixon
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Gadget
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Hi Erin
I don't think you will find very much on his football career outside of Blyth by looking through local newspapers. There might be an obituary if he died in the region but this will be mainly an account written by a family member or close friend (as I see you've found)
My father was a professional footballer in the 1920s and moved outside of his local area. Also, a number of his relatives played professional football and I've spent a good deal of time tracing their careers. There is very little written about them in the local press after they left and I've had to go outside the area to the places that they were playing to get information. OK, I do have one famous connection - Billy Meredith - whose career is well documented but the others were more difficult to obtain,`despite them being capped for Wales. That is partly why I purchased the book that I mentioned earlier.
I see that the Bolton Wonderers site has little on the history of the club, unless I've missed something. So a posting on the Lancashire Board or the Occupational Interests board might get you something on his football career in Lancashire. For example, I started a thread last year and have found lots of information for members that would not have been found in local newspaper searches:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,259492.0.html
Use local resources for his Blyth Spartans career but don't expect much on his time at Bolton.
Incidentally, the NE clubs, with the exception of Blyth's cup run, don't seem to have really been surrounded in glory recently.
This from a Sunderland season ticket holder 
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c-side
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Hi All,
I really hate it when I have nothing positive to say but, so far, that is the case.
The librarian did have some books ‘in the back’ which contained handwritten fixture lists and names of players, also cuttings from the local paper of photographs and articles written by Crofter as mentioned above by Michael. Unfortunately these started in around 1930 - too late for Robert Amos. I also went through the Blyth News for 1905 but can say that he didn’t play for them in that year.
You may be interested to know, Michael, that our friend Crofter did not exist in 1905 and I discovered why when I reached the new season in September. The new ground at Croft Park was officially opened that month.
Instead of an individual article on the Spartans there was an extremely long article - sometimes 3 full columns, dealing with dozens of local teams - under the heading of Athletic Notes. And not a photograph to be seen! Eventually I figured out that the Friday issue contained the line up for the following day so that speeded things up a bit and I will go back and have another go at later years.
Sorry I didn’t find anything
Christine
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Gadget
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Hi Christine
I don't like to say 'What did I say' but I will  . As I said, I did it for my ancestors/relatives and found very little in the local press (same time scale as Erin's ancestor - 1890-1930) . You have to hope for a local afficionado to have done a whole history. I was lucky with one but had to rely on various other sources for most of my research.
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erin31
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Christine it is so kind of you to do that. Thank you so much.
You may not of found anything but I can discount 1905.
Thank you once again.
Best wishes Erin
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c-side
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I haven’t given up yet, Gadget . The one thing about Blyth is it’s love of football (like the rest of the north east) - the trouble was too much written text.
I did find a reference to someone who might be one of my relatives which suggests a connection with the management of Spartans - so that’s given me something to think about. Also interesting skulduggery - assault on a referee and poaching of players by other teams  All interesting stuff.
Christine
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Gadget
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The Wrexham coalmining area of Denbighshire was a bit like that - my gran bashed the ref with her umbrella because she didn't agree with his decision
I think I take after my gran
I'm hoping to find something on Robert Amos for Erin from my book when I get back. The print is so tiny I have to use a magnifying glass.
Are there no Blyth Spartan historians around the area - surely there must be some 
Gadget
If Sunderland had gone down, I was threatening to support Blyth instead
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