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Nick29
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Can someone help identify the mysterious Millicent ?
« on: Sunday 26 July 09 11:53 UTC (UK) »

This one has eluded me for quite a while now.....

William STEAD was born in Dover, Kent in 1784.  He was christened on 6 Sep 1784 in Saint Mary The Virgin, Dover, Kent.

He married a Millicent ___________ ?  But I've no idea where or when.  Millicent was born about 1784 in Kent.

They had four children...

Thomas STEAD born in Maidstone, Kent in 1812 - he was baptised in All Saints, Maidstone, Kent on 28 Feb 1812.
Edward STEAD born in Maidstone, Kent in 1819 - according to census records.
Ann STEAD, born in ? Kent about 1822, according to the 1841 census (Greenwich).
Harriet STEAD born in ? Kent, in 1827, according to the 1841 census (Greenwich).

On the 1841 census, William, Millicent, Thomas, Edward & Harriet are all living in Ryhmer's buildings, Greenwich, Kent.
William is a tailor, and so is youngest son Edward.
Thomas married Caroline Elizabeth Weeks in 1834 in Deptford.
Edward married Anna Maria Sutton in 1840 in Lewisham.
I've not managed to find Ann or Harriet post-1841.

William STEAD died in 1854, and I've not been able to find him on the 1851 census.

Millicent died in 1844. 

I don't have the death certificate for Millicent.  Would it help to get one ?  She really is a mysterious lady !

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Re: Can someone help identify the mysterious Millicent ?
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 26 July 09 14:21 UTC (UK) »

Just posting this so I can see where I'm going Wink

1841 - Rhyman's Buildings, Greenwich

William STEAD 55 tailor b.Kent
Millicet 55 b.Kent
Edward 20 tailor b.Kent
Ann 20 b.Kent
Harriett 14 b.Kent
Edward (something like) B..USTON Huh? (can't read surname - do you know who it is?) 3 b.Kent

HO107/489 book 14 folio 37 page 26
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Don't you think Ann is more likely to be Edward's wife if they married in 1840 Huh

Can you please clarify your souce of William STEAD having been born in Dover if you haven't found him in the 1851 census?

Do you have the death certificate for William who died 1854 - does everything fit Huh

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I don't have the death certificate for Millicent.  Would it help to get one ?  She really is a mysterious lady

The chances are somewhat slim ie. unless her death was registered by a relative other than a child/husband etc..

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Re: Can someone help identify the mysterious Millicent ?
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 26 July 09 14:42 UTC (UK) »

Just posting this so I can see where I'm going Wink

1841 - Rhyman's Buildings, Greenwich

William STEAD 55 tailor b.Kent
Millicet 55 b.Kent
Edward 20 tailor b.Kent
Ann 20 b.Kent
Harriett 14 b.Kent
Edward (something like) B..USTON Huh? (can't read surname - do you know who it is?) 3 b.Kent

HO107/489 book 14 folio 37 page 26
.................

Yes, that's the family.  I don't have any idea who the unreadable person is.


Don't you think Ann is more likely to be Edward's wife if they married in 1840 Huh

Can you please clarify your souce of William STEAD having been born in Dover if you haven't found him in the 1851 census?

Do you have the death certificate for William who died 1854 - does everything fit Huh

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I don't have the death certificate for Millicent.  Would it help to get one ?  She really is a mysterious lady

The chances are somewhat slim ie. unless her death was registered by a relative other than a child/husband etc..

Casalguidi Smiley

I'll get back to you on the rest - Ancestry has slowed to a standstill at the moment, and I can't access my tree !   Roll Eyes

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Re: Can someone help identify the mysterious Millicent ?
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 26 July 09 15:49 UTC (UK) »

OK, Ancestry is working better now..... yes, you're right about Ann - this is a part of my tree that I hadn't visited for a while, and before making the original post in this thread I noticed that Ann was missing as a daughter, and I quickly added her, not realising that I already had her as a daughter in law !  Smiley

The source record of Williams birth is a parish record from Saint Mary The Virgin, Dover, Kent.  I don't have his death certificate, which I suppose I should get, to make sure it is him.  The fact that he had children in Maidstone, and ended up in Greenwich, and the A2 from Dover passes through all 3 places led me to accept the evidence, but I shall get the death certificate  Smiley
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Re: Can someone help identify the mysterious Millicent ?
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 26 July 09 16:03 UTC (UK) »

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Edward (something like) B..USTON

It's been transcribed as Pthuston which I think is unlikely  Cheesy

On the original it looks as though the enumerator has written 'do' then overwitten it with the name.  Best guess is Bluston.

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Re: Can someone help identify the mysterious Millicent ?
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 26 July 09 16:24 UTC (UK) »

Might this be why you can't find Harriet post 1841?


Free BMD has
Deaths Sept 1845
Harriet Stead  Clerkenwell 3 61
(there are a number of other Harriet Stead deaths registered between 1841 and 1851 but this is the closest one to Greenwich)

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Nell
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Re: Can someone help identify the mysterious Millicent ?
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 26 July 09 16:32 UTC (UK) »

Thanks for that, but I'm not sure how Clarkenwell fits in with the family movements.  Maybe Harriet got married ?  Another anomoly in this family is the appearance of a Stead from Yorkshire (where the vast majority of Steads seem to come from) visiting very close by in 1851.  I think there must be a connection between the Kent Steads and the Yorkshire Steads, but I've yet to find it  Smiley
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Re: Can someone help identify the mysterious Millicent ?
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 26 July 09 19:09 UTC (UK) »

Think I may have discovered who baby Edward was - a possible relative (grandson perhaps?) to William & Millicent Wink

1851 - 7 Lewisham Road, Greenwich

William BURSTOW head mar 40 pipe maker b.Greenwich
Mary wife 40 b.Greenwich
William son 16 b.Greenwich
Edward son 13 b.Greenwich
Millicent dau 7 b.Greenwich
+ some lodgers

HO107/1586 folio 542 page 3
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William BURSTOW married Mary HEAD 1833 Lee http://wwww.familysearch.org - I could be wrong but I wouldn't be surprised if this should read STEAD - STEAD often looks like HEAD when it is written in the old census returns Wink

Nick, do you have the marriage witnesses from the marriages of Edward 1840 and Thomas 1834 Huh

Not much for a days work but something Roll Eyes

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Re: Can someone help identify the mysterious Millicent ?
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 26 July 09 22:00 UTC (UK) »

The IGI has the woman's name as Mary Head too.

I don't have the marriage certificates, but I do have the marriage records for St Alfeges Church Greenwich up to 1861, so I'll see if I can find anything in there.  If not, I'll get the certificates.

Thanks all !  Smiley
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Re: Can someone help identify the mysterious Millicent ?
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 26 July 09 22:13 UTC (UK) »

P.S. Here's the witnesses for Thomas Stead's marriage....



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Re: Can someone help identify the mysterious Millicent ?
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 26 July 09 22:15 UTC (UK) »

I have found something which appears to verify the above post (BURSTOW marriage to STEAD) http://www.curiousfox.com/surnames/Burstow_1.html

Yes, the IGI is where I found the BURSTOW *HEAD* marriage.

Also, another son to William & Millicent - John Pierson STEAD 1814 Maidstone http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mrawson/maidextr.html

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Re: Can someone help identify the mysterious Millicent ?
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 26 July 09 22:24 UTC (UK) »

Regarding the witnesses to Thomas' marriage, Mr SYMS was the parish clerk so it's doubtful that he'll be much help Wink

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Re: Can someone help identify the mysterious Millicent ?
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 26 July 09 22:29 UTC (UK) »

Wow !   That's great, thanks !  Smiley  Maybe Mary Ann was the oldest daugheter of William & Millicent ?  She named her daughter Millicent too.

I can't understand why she was born in Greenwich, though  Huh

Thanks for the info on Mr Syms !   I think this was a shotgun wedding, which is why they got married in Deptford, and not Greenwich !  Wink



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Re: Can someone help identify the mysterious Millicent ?
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 26 July 09 23:01 UTC (UK) »

I'm confused now..... the entry for Thomas Steede (parents William & Millicent) is not the same date as the IGI date for Thomas Stead in the same church.  If we use this date, he would have been married at 16  Huh
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Re: Can someone help identify the mysterious Millicent ?
« Reply #14 on: Monday 27 July 09 22:23 UTC (UK) »

The IGI date does fit with others of that batch number so it could be that the transcription is an error Undecided

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