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Geordie daughter
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ev
I might have a breakthrough with regard to whom the Service family worked for! I have made contact with someone who is descended from John's brother, George. His youngest daughter Ellen married at Duns Castle in 1902, her occupation being given as 'Domestic Servant,' residing at Duns Castle, and George's occupation was given as 'Estate Carter'! (In 1881, George was an assistant forester, like James.) 
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Geordie daughter
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ev
It does look like it, doesn't it? Your thinking was inspired, thank you! I'm still not sure how they could have muddled the two families, unless it just sounded posher saying you worked for the Duke. Either that, or the Services changed employers midstream!!
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Glen in Tinsel Kni
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Well the Duke of Roxburghe is probably a more well known title than The Marquis of Tweedale/Marquess of Tweeddale.
And it's probably fair to say the two prominent families probably crossed paths at some point or other.
Though going by what ev posted while i was typing this you might want to ignore the above
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Geordie daughter
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ev, those statistics do rather seem to back up the theory that the Services were in the employ of the Hays, though Glen did mention in an earlier post that the Duke held some land in Berwickshire...now, if we can figure out which parts, maybe both stories were true!!
...and as you and Glen both said, the Duke of Roxburghe does have a certain ring to it  . Great for name-dropping!
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Glen in Tinsel Kni
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Well if i ever do link my Hay ancestors (starting right with my mother) to the Duns Castle family they also have a very distant link (by marriage if not by blood) to Nelson. I just thought i would drop that one in there very casually 
On a slightly more serious note, the main difficulty you may face when trying to get back beyond 1855 is where the records will be held, although Berwick records office is in England they do hold quite a bit of information for Berwickshire, but you may find the records you are wanting are held at the archives at Hawick.
If i can help with photographs around Coldstream just let me know, although Duns and Ladykirk aren't that far away i don't tend to head to them unless i have a specific reason.
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Geordie daughter
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Glen, access to records is always a big problem for me, as none of my ancestors have ever been natives of any of the counties I've lived in...very selfish of them!! It does limit my research rather, but it's amazing what you can unearth via the internet and email, with a little persistence and a lot of helpful people. Talking of which, thanks for your offer re photos, that's very kind of you.
I like the casual name-dropping You could always write a book called 'The Ancestors I Might Have Had.' Actually, my Services are turning out to be one of my most interesting lines, as far as links with famous people go, even if it is only by association, and not blood! The name Service comes from the French words 'cerveise' meaning ale or beer, and 'servir', to serve, originally an occupational name given to a brewer or tavern keeper, I've discovered, so nothing to do with being 'in service.'
Oh, wow, Terry, yes! Those are indeed Janet's parents. I managed to find siblings Agnes, Mary, Margaret, and Elizabeth, but that's as far as I've got. Who is your OH descended from?
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Geordie daughter
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Terry, that's marvellous! The least I can do is give you John and Janet's children's details:
Ellen Henderson b 12/01/1869, Duns, Berwick
Christiana or Christina Brown (just discovered this one last week!) born and died Mar Q 1872, Hebburn, County Durham
George Christopher b Mar Q 1874, Hebburn, County Durham
Christina Brown b 12/07/1880, Hebburn, County Durham
Ellen married Thomas Briggs, Sep Q 1886, Hebburn. Thomas was born in Scotland but I've no idea where. They had a total of 11 children though I've only identified 10 so far. If you'd like their details I'll pass them on.)
George married Sarah Ann Bridges, Sep Q 1898, Hebburn and had one daughter, Sarah Jane, born Dec Q 1899. He then died in Mar Q 1901, and his widow remarried in Dec Q 1901, to a George Mossop, in Gateshead.
Christina married James Curry (b 14/11/1875, Newcastle) in Dec Q 1900.
They had Elvera Preston, b Mar Q 1902, Hebburn m Joseph Lydon
Roberta Jane Davison, b 17/01/1904, Hebburn m James William Swinhoe (my grandparents)
James b 18/9/1908 m Hilda Crosby. He died of TB contracted while serving on the convoy ships in the Merchant Navy, 10/11/1945.
Christine b 2/06/1910 m William Roy Atkinson
Ada b 9/11/1914 m George Clark Whipps
My mum tells me James and Christina had a posh wedding with open horse-drawn carriages and all the trimmings, apparently. Elvera was brought up by grandparents John and Janet, as Christina was very ill after the birth of one of the younger children, and was a secretary at A. Reyrolle and Company in Hebburn, before her marriage. I have yet to find where the name Elvera originated from!
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Geordie daughter
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It's a pleasure! It's nice to be able to help you for a change 
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hebburnlad
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Hello, I have been researching my surname , Lothian, for about nine years, Janet Service married to John Service was my G-G aunt, if you need any info I'll be glad to share it with you. My research starts in Westruther to present time Hebburn.
Walter Lothian
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Geordie daughter
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Lovely to hear from you, Walter! Thank you very much for your kind offer. I'll pull out my notes on the Lothians as soon as I can get a minute and PM you, if that's O.K., as the Lothians are lumped in with the Services and Hendersons in my file. (We moved house in April, and I'm still not properly organised!!) 
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