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dudjac
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Retreat Place, Parkstone.
« on: Wednesday 29 July 09 12:14 UTC (UK) »

Hi.

Is any local historian able to tell me if Retreat Place, Parkstone, Dorset
still exists. I believe there is a Retreat Road, in Wimborne, has this any connection?
I ask as the 1891 census shows a relly as living at Reteat Place.  After Rereat Place the enumerator moved on to Sandy Lane, if this is any help.

Any info much appreciated.

Dud.
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Re: Retreat Place, Parkstone.
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 29 July 09 13:24 UTC (UK) »

Hi,

There is a Retreat Road in Wimborne, off St Johns Hill .

There are a few Sandy Lanes in the area but none near Retreat Road.

No Retreat Place in Parkstone now according to my modern street map of Bournemouth area.

Nothing showing on my 1900 map of Wimborne either, sorry.



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Re: Retreat Place, Parkstone.
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 29 July 09 13:36 UTC (UK) »

Hi Nanny Jan.

Many thanks for taking the time to look.    Probably all demolished
over the years.  Again many thanks.  Dud.
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Re: Retreat Place, Parkstone.
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 29 July 09 13:42 UTC (UK) »

Hi,

Can you find the enumerator's complete route......Retreat Place, Sandy Lane,..............?   

I might be able to locate the modern street names.


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Re: Retreat Place, Parkstone.
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 29 July 09 13:46 UTC (UK) »

Hi again.

Looking through further census it appears that after Sandy Lane the enumerator went into Woking Road, Parkstone.  I see from Streetmap that Woking Road is still there so would assume Retreat Place would have been in the vacinity.

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Re: Retreat Place, Parkstone.
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 29 July 09 13:57 UTC (UK) »

Hi,

It could be just a name change; there are plenty of old houses in that area.


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Re: Retreat Place, Parkstone.
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 29 July 09 14:00 UTC (UK) »

Hi.  Thanks again for your help.  Dud.
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Re: Retreat Place, Parkstone.
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 30 July 09 09:28 UTC (UK) »

Hello Dud,

I am in the vicinity of Woking Road and will go and have a look to see if there are any clues as to the whereabouts of a Retreat Place.

Will get back to you.

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Re: Retreat Place, Parkstone.
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 30 July 09 17:29 UTC (UK) »

Could be a name cut into the stone (or brick) work of a building in the area. Also local, will have a look next time I'm round there if Jo doesn't get back to you first.
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Re: Retreat Place, Parkstone.
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 30 July 09 18:21 UTC (UK) »

Hi Jo and Red'

Wow! that would be marvellous.  I guess that Retreat Place must have contained a row of houses as my relly was listed as being in No 10.
I refer to the 1891 census so anything could have happened in 100 years.

Again very many thanks for you kind help.

Dud
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Re: Retreat Place, Parkstone.
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 30 July 09 18:32 UTC (UK) »

Hi .Me again.

Another clue is that on previous pages the enumerator covered thr Retreat Hotel in Kinson Road, then Randolph Road and then back and forth btween Hitching (?) Terrace and Retreat Place.
Maybe this helps.  Dud.
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Re: Retreat Place, Parkstone.
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 30 July 09 18:45 UTC (UK) »

There must be a great deal of renaming; modern Kinson Road is at least 2 miles fromthe area you are interested in.Have Randolph Road, but can' find a Hitching Terrace. Other names in the immediate area are Belmont Road, Weymouth Road, Pearson Avenue, Salisbury Road. There is a pub in the area now named the Victoria Cross, I suspect that this may have been named the Retreat Hotel at that time. The main road is now called Ashley Road. Can you give any other names?
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Re: Retreat Place, Parkstone.
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 30 July 09 18:55 UTC (UK) »

Hi Red'

Have just learnt that Safeways was built on the Parkstone Hants and Dorset depot and the Retreat Hotel.  Reckon it all dissapeared under the heading of progress.
Thanks for helping.  Dud.
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Re: Retreat Place, Parkstone.
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 30 July 09 19:09 UTC (UK) »

Confirm this, have found the Retreat Hotel on 1900 Old Maps site. When you get in the site type in Parkstone, and then enlarge the map.The Retreat Hotel was in the square bounded by Ashley Road, Richmond Road, Woking Road and Mansfield Road, I would guess between Salisbury Road, and the current Waitrose (was Safeway, the Morrison's) Will look Saturday when I visit Waitrose! Couldn't find Retreat Place, but the map was too hazy to see much at all other than main names.
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Re: Retreat Place, Parkstone.
« Reply #14 on: Friday 31 July 09 18:05 UTC (UK) »

Hello to all,

I have had a walk along Woking Road and there are a couple of places where there could have been an earlier development which no longer exists. On one side of Woking Road, there is an area off this, a road and quite a large complex at the rear. There are new houses on this now, it appears to have been made up recently, a new road etc. There is no name that I can see, it just had Private Road at the entrance.

On the other side of Woking Road, a bit further along, there is another small road way with houses along it. No name that I could see.

Do you have the reference of the 1891 census which shows Retreat Place? I have looked through some of the Parkstone entries but cannot find it.

I will go to the library tomorrow and look through some old directories of the area to see what street names are given there at that time. Is there anyone in particular you are looking for?

I shall be in Waitrose on Saturday too!

Jo

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