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janan
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Re: Poor Relief Records
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 11 August 09 20:05 UTC (UK) »
I've also looked in vain for William on censuses and BMD - emigration before 1881 does seem likely.

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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge
crookedtail
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Grandmother Mary Brown
Re: Poor Relief Records
« Reply #16 on: Friday 14 August 09 16:33 UTC (UK) »
Hi,

William did know about his brother as Roberts brother
David also from Scotland took the over seeing of both
boys making sure of money for there keep and visits as he
was mentioned in the record i got from Scotland
and is noted by living relatives that he visited both boys
but David went to USA in Pa in 1881 ..
.and i know that David had just lost to death
three of his sons so i believe that they were
emotionally unable and had 6 others still living to
take the two  boys at the deaths of all their caretakers.
I am in contact with some of Davids
grandchildren but they have been unable to find
any paperwork that David had on the two boys,but are still
looking and no one knows now what happened to the boys.
Walter Cyrus went to Canada in 1880 and i have
traced him till the 1930 USA census in New York but nothing
after that,working on death  but quit expensive without
knowing when. William may have gone to Canada also but
unable to find a connection with Walter.
Thanks guys it is great to have others input on ideas and
another pair of eyes.. Grin Roll Eyes
Any ideas are welcome....sometime you get tunnelvisioned
and miss things...
Crookedtail
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Paterson ...Lanarkshire,Old Monkland/Ayrshire
Penman..Lanarkshire,Fife
Brown  ..Old Monkland,Dennistown/Townhead
Moir...Dennistown
Beattie..Huh?
Wood...Renfrewshire
Merrilees...Dennistown/Ayrshire
Davies...Wales
Richards..Wales
Howell..Wales
crookedtail
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Grandmother Mary Brown
Re: Poor Relief Records
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 20 August 09 22:41 UTC (UK) »
Hi,

I have been able to get the records for Walter Cyrus Paterson
from the Quarrie in  Canada....
It states in these records that his brother is a seaman so
that may make a differance in not finding him on the census
it does not mention a name of ship...
Since William Arthur Collett (Walters brothers name)Born:
March 1,1864 in Bedford,England
has spent most of his life in England I would think his ships
where out of Liverpool or other England ports...does
someone know about ship records and help or give me some
hints how to find some records...Crookedtail
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Paterson ...Lanarkshire,Old Monkland/Ayrshire
Penman..Lanarkshire,Fife
Brown  ..Old Monkland,Dennistown/Townhead
Moir...Dennistown
Beattie..Huh?
Wood...Renfrewshire
Merrilees...Dennistown/Ayrshire
Davies...Wales
Richards..Wales
Howell..Wales
bedfordshire boy
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Re: Poor Relief Records
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 20 August 09 23:32 UTC (UK) »
There were a lot of English ports other than Liverpool. London being much closer to Bedford than Liverpool.  But as we can't find him in any census after 1871 you can't say he "spent most of his life in England".  All we know is that he spent the first seven years of his life in the UK, probably at Bedford. We don't know where he was in the world after 1871 - he could equally have emigrated and have been a seaman out of, say, New York. Or he could have been a seaman (sailor) in the Royal Navy, rather than a merchant seaman.

What was the date of the record that said he was a seaman?
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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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