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Topic: catholic register of warkworth? (Read 634 times)
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c-side
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A new generation - my great grandson 11-09-09
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Hi Pete,
According to genuki Warkworth doesn't appear to have a Catholic church - the nearest seems to be Amble
Christine
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Michael Dixon
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Pete,
are you saying you have searched unsuccessfully for baptisms in The catholic churches of Felton ( St Mary's) , Alnwick (St Mary's) etc.
Felton RC about 5-6 miles from Warkworth town/village
Alnwick RC about 6-7 miles from Warkworth.
Some Parish Churches ( Church of England/Angican) recorded some non-conformist baptisms. St Laurence, parish church of Warkworth was one.
But Catholics would have free to travel to their ( nearest ? ) own church, which in the example of Warkworth would have been within another Parish.
There was also a RC church in Witton, south west of Longhorsley. ( from circa 1790)
Michael Dixon
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Names.
GALLAGHER ( + variations).
Areas. Co Sligo, Co Leitrim, Co Mayo. IRELAND.
Ontario, CANADA
Lowell, Ma, USA
Counties of Northumberland & Durham, ENGLAND
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MALEY/MELIA/MALLEY - with or without " O "
Westport Co Mayo. Northumberland
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DIXON
Cumberland.. Brampton, Carlisle, ENGLAND
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c-side
RootsChat Veteran
Posts: 599
A new generation - my great grandson 11-09-09
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What names are you looking for, Pete?
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c-side
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A new generation - my great grandson 11-09-09
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Ooo, a posh side - impressive 
I've just been back on genuki and note that the Warkworth non-con records 1723 - 1824 are at Newcastle Library. Do you have access?
If not maybe you could ask Michael nicely - I know he goes there 
Christine
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Michael Dixon
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Christine and Pete,
As Genuki says, the Warkworth parish records for non-conformists, held at Newcastle Library ( I was there yesterday) are transcripts- not the actual records.
Generally speaking the Library holds mainly abbreviated transcriptions of church records- usually from early doors up to either 1812 or 1937 or 1839.
Full church records are held in the appropriate County Record Office (Woodhorn for NBL, Tyne & Wear Archives, Newcastle, for "Tyne & Wear")
Of course I am willing to do looks-up at Library*, but Pete should get a bigger deal at Woodhorn.
(* And in fact I probably will do look-up to satisfy my curiosity to see what details the Anglican Parish Church has recorded on what non-conformists)
I dont want to start a religious war, but I think that Catholics were not nonconforists. N-Cs were I think, , as far as England and Wales was concerned, Protestants who refused to conform to the ways/rules of Anglicanism ( e.g. Methodists, Presbyterians)
( For Scotland, they would be Protestants outside the Church of Scotland)
Michael Dixon
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Names.
GALLAGHER ( + variations).
Areas. Co Sligo, Co Leitrim, Co Mayo. IRELAND.
Ontario, CANADA
Lowell, Ma, USA
Counties of Northumberland & Durham, ENGLAND
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MALEY/MELIA/MALLEY - with or without " O "
Westport Co Mayo. Northumberland
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DIXON
Cumberland.. Brampton, Carlisle, ENGLAND
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c-side
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Posts: 599
A new generation - my great grandson 11-09-09
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Hi guys,
I agree you’ll get more information from the actual records but they could be anywhere. My Presbyterian folks from Etal are listed in Ford parish records “children purported to have been born” but they are not listed neatly year on year with the other baptisms - just lumped a few years at a time randomly in the records. It could take a while to locate them.
It was a bit cheeky on my part to volunteer you for the job, Michael, but my thinking was that a quick look through the transcripts (already separated out) would confirm whether or not they were there. If they were then it would be worth Pete searching for them.
I also agree that generally the non-con records included like this that I’ve seen relate to Presbyterians but they were the ones I recognised as such - others could have been Catholic and if there’s nowhere else to look……
Christine
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Michael Dixon
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Christine,
I hope to find out in next couple of days- as far as Warkworth is concerned.
But I think that the recordings of n-c events in the Anglican Parish records were not of Baptisms, but of the fact that n-c children had been born within the bounds of the Parish- which had later ramifications on things such as pauperism (if there is such a word)
Michael Dixon
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Names.
GALLAGHER ( + variations).
Areas. Co Sligo, Co Leitrim, Co Mayo. IRELAND.
Ontario, CANADA
Lowell, Ma, USA
Counties of Northumberland & Durham, ENGLAND
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MALEY/MELIA/MALLEY - with or without " O "
Westport Co Mayo. Northumberland
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DIXON
Cumberland.. Brampton, Carlisle, ENGLAND
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c-side
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Posts: 599
A new generation - my great grandson 11-09-09
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I agree, Michael - much more likely to be births than baptisms. The vicar would not necessarily know whether the children had been baptised, or when and some n-c branches don't baptise babies anyway.
Also, in the case of my Ford/Etal ancestors it is clear that the vicar was unwilling even to commit himself as to the children actually being born - just purported to be born!
Maybe the reference to n-c baptisms in Warkworth is a slip of the pen/word processor.
Christine
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