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BOWDON IN CHESHIRE
« on: Thursday 30 July 09 15:07 UTC (UK) »

I am desperatly trying to find out about an area of Bowdon in Cheshire called Spring Bank.
On the 1871 census I have found my ancestors down as living at the address, Spring Bank in Bowdon. There is no house number there and although it does show on an up to date map it does not appear to look like a street. Please can anybody offer me some help? Many Thanks, Adam.
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Spring Bank in Bowdon
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 30 July 09 15:14 UTC (UK) »

I am desperatly trying to find out about an area of Bowdon in Cheshire called Spring Bank.
On the 1871 census I have found my ancestors down as living at the address, Spring Bank in Bowdon. There is no house number there and although it does show on an up to date map it does not appear to look like a street. Please can anybody offer me some help? My ancestors were the Ollier family and although husband and wife are registered at birth in Northwich it appears that they moved to Bowdon for about ten years in and around 1870 where they started to raise their family. Does anybody know if they may have moved here for work or what Spring Bank used to be or was? Many Thanks, Adam.
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Re: BOWDON IN CHESHIRE
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 30 July 09 15:20 UTC (UK) »

Adam, welcome to RootsChat.

There is a complex of flats (I think it may be a sheltered scheme, I'm not sure) called Spring Bank, on Ashley Road - more or less opposite the junction with Hale Road. If this is what you've seen on the current map it is a block built in the last 10-20 years.
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Re: BOWDON IN CHESHIRE
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 30 July 09 15:33 UTC (UK) »

Hi
Thanks for your speedy reply.
Yes, the Spring bank that I have seen on the map is the one that you are talking about.
I wonder if it is the same area as spoken about on the 1871 census?
Adam
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Re: Spring Bank in Bowdon
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 30 July 09 15:47 UTC (UK) »

When I lived in the area as a child/teenager, Spring Bank was a large green area at the bottom of Stamford Road at its junction with Ashley Road.  Having googled for Spring Bank, Hale, Cheshire (it is debatable whether it was in Hale or Bowdon), I found an apartment for sale called Spring Bank with the directions suggesting you go from Ashley Road Hale, towards the traffic lights (not there in my day), turn right (still Ashley Road going towards Altrincham) and Spring Bank is on the left.  So it looks as though it has been built on, which is not surprising.

Perhaps there were properties on it in 1871 but by the 1940s and 1950s they had gone as we used to play on there.

Lizzie
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Re: BOWDON IN CHESHIRE
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 30 July 09 15:48 UTC (UK) »

Adam, I'll try and see what I can find - in the meantime there's an old (but sadly undated) photograph on the Trafford Lifetimes site at
http://www.trafford.gov.uk/content/tca/display_image.asp?ImageID=5234

I know there are several other posters on here whose local knowledge goes back beyond mine, so may be more able to help.
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Re: BOWDON IN CHESHIRE
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 30 July 09 15:55 UTC (UK) »

See also

www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=395756.new#new

I've given a fuller answer on that thread, but I think we all agree where it was.

Lizzie
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Re: BOWDON IN CHESHIRE
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 30 July 09 15:57 UTC (UK) »

Adam - sorry I really should have thought of this one before
http://maps.cheshire.gov.uk/tithemaps/TwinMaps.aspx?township=EDT_59-2
This gives you side by side two maps of the same area different dates. If you change the left one to 1875 and then move the right hand one to the right so you can see both railway stations (Hale & Altrincham) - then zoom in about halfway between the two & you have old & modern Spring Bank.
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Re: Spring Bank in Bowdon
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 30 July 09 15:59 UTC (UK) »

Thanks for that Lizzie - much appreciated
Adam
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Re: BOWDON IN CHESHIRE
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 30 July 09 16:04 UTC (UK) »

Thanks for that but I have a really slow mobile internet connection and Im having trouble opening the link.
Do you have any idea where I could go and see an old map in person or where I would find more information out about Spring Bank?
Adam
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Re: BOWDON IN CHESHIRE
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 30 July 09 16:11 UTC (UK) »

Adam - the tithe maps website is I think the best online for Cheshire old maps - perhaps a visit to a library?

Bowdon, Hale & Altrincham (Spring Bank seems to be at the junction of all three) now come under Trafford. Trafford Local Studies Library is in Sale & they have a collection of maps from the past as well as trades directories, some electoral rolls, local papers (film) and other local material.
http://www.trafford.gov.uk/LeisureAndCulture/Libraries/RecordsAndArchives-LocalStudies

Cheshire Records Office in Chester also has old maps & will probably also have some of this area.
http://www.cheshireeast.gov.uk/leisure_and_culture/record_office.aspx
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Re: Spring Bank in Bowdon
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 30 July 09 16:14 UTC (UK) »

This is Spring Bank in 1911.

Stan


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Re: BOWDON IN CHESHIRE
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 30 July 09 16:17 UTC (UK) »

This is Springbank in 1911
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Re: BOWDON IN CHESHIRE
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 30 July 09 21:45 UTC (UK) »

Just a little bit to add.
Springbank in 1871 was in the parish of Bowdon.  Hale, Altrincham - and Bowdon, I think - were all townships in that parish. The maps given above show the area where it was.

Looking at the c1875 map on the Cheshire Tithe Map site it looks a little as though SptingBank took up the whole of the land fronting Ashley Road and bounded by Stamford Road and 'the road by the side of Culcheth Hall, nowadays a school. There is obviously a 'big house' in the middle.

Currently - and for some time, as LizzieW mentioned - there had been an open park area on that part of that land bordering Stamford Road and Ashley Road.  There have long been some houses on the corner - fronting Ashley Road on the other corner by the Culcheth Hall school.  In the middle I think will have been Springbank - the house? - which much more recently, as has been said, has been converted into, I think, retirement apartments.

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Re: BOWDON IN CHESHIRE
« Reply #14 on: Friday 31 July 09 09:43 UTC (UK) »

Thanks for all the help.
I am wondering if anybody could tell me from their knowledge and expertise how I would go about finding out who lived there at the time and who it actually belonged to?
Adam
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