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Clannessie
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Grauxe
« on: Thursday 30 July 09 22:46 UTC (UK) »

Has anyone ever seen this family name?

Karen
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Taylor & Simpson - Drumgrannon, Moy, County Tyrone, Ireland
Taylor - Birkenhead, Seacombe, England
Savage - County Tyrone, Ireland
Savage - Milngavie, Scotland & South Africa
Cooper - Ireland & Milngavie
Woods - Ireland
Thomson - Ireland
Young - Barony, Calton, Glasgow, Scotland
Galloway - Stirling & Glasgow, Scotland
Campbell - Jura & Stirling, Scotland
Murdock -England, Nova Scotia

Michael Dixon
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Re: Grauxe
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 30 July 09 23:04 UTC (UK) »

Karen,

A search of all censuses of England & Wales from 1841 to 1901 turns up not one GRAUXE.

But one GRAUX is revealed. Living in London on the 1861 census, was 21 yr old Theodore Graux, French-born "arist in flowers", living in with a French family.

The web site on Births Marriages and Deaths registrations from 1837 onwards
( .. freebmd.rootsweb.com ..)
shows a handful of GRAUX registrations, mainly in London.

Michael Dixon


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Names.

GALLAGHER ( + variations).
Areas. Co Sligo, Co Leitrim, Co Mayo. IRELAND.
Ontario, CANADA
Lowell, Ma, USA
Counties of Northumberland & Durham, ENGLAND
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MALEY/MELIA/MALLEY - with or without " O "
Westport Co Mayo. Northumberland
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DIXON
Cumberland.. Brampton, Carlisle, ENGLAND

Clannessie
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Re: Grauxe
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 30 July 09 23:11 UTC (UK) »

Thanks Michael!

I just had a post from TalkingScot...where someone said there were Graux's on Ancestry.com

Here's what I have so far and why I am looking for that name.

I have just found a 1915 death record for Jane Murdock Harvey(Harvie) with the mothers name as Margarett Grauxe. I have seen 2 different birth places for Jane...one London, the other Newcastle. Her Father Benjamin Murdock was born in Nova Scotia and must have gone to England...married there...had 3 children. In a newspaper article on Jane's death it said she and her family moved back to NS when she was young.
Other problem is on one of her brother's death records it was listed that his mothers name was Martha Conum...not sure if that was spelled right...could be Croum or Coram...I have had no luck with any of the spellings!

Thr brothers were born about 1825 and 1827...mayube they did have another Mother. I just know they were born in "England". Jane was born in 1833.

How do I find the ones you mentioned in London?

Karen


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Clannessie
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Re: Grauxe
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 30 July 09 23:15 UTC (UK) »

OK found them...but not early enough time frame...earliest is 1845


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Michael Dixon
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Re: Grauxe
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 30 July 09 23:25 UTC (UK) »

Karen,

Civil registration of BMDs did not start in England/Wales until 1st July 1837.... so that's as early as possible..... before 1837, we dig into Church records for
Baptisms, Marriages and Burials.

MD


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Clannessie
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Re: Grauxe
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 30 July 09 23:26 UTC (UK) »

so I have hit yet another brick wall then?


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Michael Dixon
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Re: Grauxe
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 30 July 09 23:39 UTC (UK) »

Karen..

If you looking for the record of birth/baptism for folk for whom the only info held is that they were " born in England" - then you really have hit a brick wall.

Scale of problem/task....
If I was looking for the baptism of a person-- and let's say that I had a bit more info... e.g. born in the County of Northumberland- before 1837- and religious denomination of Church of England..... my task would be to trawl church records for about 200 parishes---- some records on line- some not on line but lodged in Record Offices/Libraries.

Michael Dixon


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Clannessie
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Re: Grauxe
« Reply #7 on: Friday 31 July 09 00:17 UTC (UK) »

all I know is that Benjamin Murdock......and this hasn't been proven to a T....was hoping to find a matching Mothers name on Jane's death record....but of course not my luck....was the youngest son of Rev James Murdock...one of the first Presbyterian ministers in Nova Scotia. He died when Benjamin was very young...like 3 or 4 though.


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Michael Dixon
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Re: Grauxe
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 01 August 09 05:39 UTC (UK) »

Karen,

Jane Murdock Harvey/Harvie born London/Newcastle. !

When was she born?
Is the Murdock name her maiden name or a " middle" name ?

When did family return to Nova Scotia ? ( England's censuses started 1801 then 10 yearly, but 1841 was first census to name folk, not just count them ! )
So if the folk you are hunting left for NS before 1841, they will not be named on an England census.

Michael Dixon


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Clannessie
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Re: Grauxe
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 01 August 09 08:07 UTC (UK) »

Jane Murdock was born in 1822. There is a record I think on LDS site and it says she was born in London. But if I remember correctly when someone wrote that post on Rootsweb...the date was off for the father, Benjamin. My Benjamin Murdock was born in NS about 1796.
Jane married a William Harvie or Harvey as I think it became in the states. After her husband died and a few of her children she moved to Yakama, Washington, USA either after or with the rest of her children. She died there on April 8, 1915 and her body was sent back to NS.
I have a couple of newspaper articles on her death. One states her Grandfather was the Rev James Murdock...first Presbyterian minister in NS. That corresponds with my info. The info on her children, the name is spelled Harvie. By her death it is Harvey. The article also states she was born in Newcastle, England and left with her family to NS when she was very young. I have no clue what year that was. I can bet it was before 1841 then Sad

with my luck!

Interesting that Newcastle is coming around again with family names. My Savages moved there around 1900 from Milngavie, Scotland. My Grandmother's family on my Mom's side. Another daughter was born there in 1901. They moved to South Africa about 1902 or 1903. I have been to Newcastle twice now...I have a Welsh cousin who lives there

Karen


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Clannessie
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Re: Grauxe
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 01 August 09 16:46 UTC (UK) »

Jane was born in 1833 NOT 1822...what I get for typing in the wee early morning hours!

I have a guess at why Benjamin Murdock might have been in England from NS. His older sister, Sussanh Murdock Duffus had a daughter, Susan. Susan married Samuel Cunard of the Cunrad Shiiping Line. Maybe Benjamin worked on one of those ships...went to England, stayed, married, had kids and then returned home to NS. Later his two sons, James and John ended up in New York on the 1950 census as "ship carpenters". John and Benjamin were farmers in Port Huron, Michigan by the 1860 census.
He might also have joined the Navy. An older brother was Lieutenant, K.N. (not sure what the KN stands for).

Just had another look at the newspaper article on Janes death in Yakama, Washington. It said she was the former Jane de Ferris Murdock. Have no clue what de Ferris is for...maybe something to do with her mother, Margarett raruxe or Graux being French?

Am tired of so many mysteries...can't anything be simple?

Karen


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Clannessie
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Re: Grauxe
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 01 August 09 17:49 UTC (UK) »

I am now answering my own questions! The "K.N" was a typo ...read it again on another site...it's RN...Royal Navy...duh


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