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shan42
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Re: How cross would you be, or am I over reacting?
« Reply #75 on: Monday 28 September 09 16:57 UTC (UK) »

I agree with what some people have said already about the fact that you have done the research, and you KNOW that it's you who put all the hours/months/years in, and you have achieved something wonderful for your efforts, but I'd feel a bit precious about mine too...  Wink

I have to add 'fair play' to all of you who have the patience to add thousands of tree members, I'm only trying to do direct links (at the moment) and nobody seems to share my tree, boo hoo!  Grin
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Re: How cross would you be, or am I over reacting?
« Reply #76 on: Monday 28 September 09 18:34 UTC (UK) »

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I have to add 'fair play' to all of you who have the patience to add thousands of tree members, I'm only trying to do direct links (at the moment) and nobody seems to share my tree, boo hoo!

That happened to me - which is why I started to expand sideways. I couldn't get any further back with my direct lines, so I started to research siblings and the marriage partners. The amazing thing is I started to get contacts much more often from these 'distant' relatives, and gradually added information to my more direct ancestors. Also it does build up a fuller picture of the lives my ancestors lived. I expect the scandals that affected my distant relatives in Yorkshire also affected my direct ancestors - my great-grandmother's cousins all ended up with criminal records - she must have known them as they lived very close. I'm glad I did that research because it explained an awful lot.

So while you're waiting for the 'important' information you need, it's well worth while looking at cousins and inlaws. Finding out about the people isn't the same as just adding the names - it really does add to the enjoyment of the research.

Lesley

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Nick29
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Re: How cross would you be, or am I over reacting?
« Reply #77 on: Monday 28 September 09 22:41 UTC (UK) »

Yes, that's exactly what I do Lesley.  Sometimes researching the branch lines can bring clues which may not break down the wall, but might put some cracks in it  Smiley
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Re: How cross would you be, or am I over reacting?
« Reply #78 on: Monday 28 September 09 23:29 UTC (UK) »

Well I answered a little while ago about how I had been lucky about my information not reaching the internet without my knowledge. Well it has happened. I don't know if I'm cross, angry or just upset. While posting another message about my husband's ancestor in the 39th Regiment of Foot, someone suggested a site with information on him. Quite excited I went straight to the site and found all my research on this ancestor there. Even mention of an aunt (95) who remembers her family talking about this soldier. Now this aunt (Matriach of the Family) turns 98 today so this has been there for the past 3 years. My annoyance was that I had only distributed this information within the living cousins (7) and told them some facts had to be proven yet. Now all the wrong information has been put on the internet. The authors e-mail address is now invalid, so I still don't know where it came from. Am contacting everyone just to satisfy my own curiosity. It did make me CROSS, but then as everyone said 'We are researching for our own personal reasons and our own enjoyment.' If people want the glory, without the research then they are missing out on meeting new people, getting help from others and enjoying the pleasure of finding something that happened to people they have never met. Over the years many, many people from all different backgrounds have helped me in all different ways. I know that if I wish to retrace any steps they would be very glad to help me if they could. That is what I think its all about. Looking, finding, solving, proving and all the other ings.
So now I have written this I feel better. If people look at this information and take it as gospel without checking then that is their problem not mine. I did contact the site owner and explained I would be willing to furnish correct information with source documents if they were interested. Haven't heard back yet.
Wendy
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shan42
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Re: How cross would you be, or am I over reacting?
« Reply #79 on: Tuesday 29 September 09 00:15 UTC (UK) »

Thanks Lesley & Nick, oh believe me I want the juicy bits from my family, lol!!  Grin
Cassofromdyers - I totally agree, having help from intrested people no way detracts from the excitment of piecing the puzzle together, but just copying other people's info must be incredibly dull! I've just found a distant family member on this board tonight, I'd never have known if I hadn't got stuck searching  Cheesy
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Re: How cross would you be, or am I over reacting?
« Reply #80 on: Tuesday 29 September 09 07:14 UTC (UK) »

There's a branch of my tree on Rootsweb.  They seem to have descended from my 3xg grandparents but goodness knows how they've managed it as they think they descend from a son who died in childhood.  The whole thing is a mess and I did wonder whether to try the email address and tell them but I decided not to.  I doubt they'd thank me for it! Roll Eyes
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shan42
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Re: How cross would you be, or am I over reacting?
« Reply #81 on: Tuesday 29 September 09 10:08 UTC (UK) »

You could be sly Jellis - email them and say you're pleased to have found the info and ask them where they found it out... if they don't reply you've lost nothing, but if they do - they might be grateful for the truth Wink


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Re: How cross would you be, or am I over reacting?
« Reply #82 on: Tuesday 29 September 09 10:52 UTC (UK) »

That is a very clever idea!  I shall have to think about the wording, though, as if they do start to correspond I shall have to come clean about the death of the son.  I have his death certificate.  I'm still wondering how they linked these people up so I shall have do something about it  Grin

Edited:  I have written a carefully worded email to the poster.  Now I shall have to wait and see!  I have told them that I descend from the younger son without mentioning the death of the elder one.  If they prove to me that there was another son I shall be amazed!

Janet
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shan42
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Re: How cross would you be, or am I over reacting?
« Reply #83 on: Tuesday 29 September 09 16:32 UTC (UK) »

Well done Jellis! Let us know how if they reply!
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Re: How cross would you be, or am I over reacting?
« Reply #84 on: Tuesday 29 September 09 16:34 UTC (UK) »

Still waiting...bet they're at work  Grin
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Re: How cross would you be, or am I over reacting?
« Reply #85 on: Tuesday 29 September 09 16:55 UTC (UK) »

While you're waiting..........

Mrs. Hat did not want her tree on the 'net, for personal reasons. However, I did find one of her direct ancestors in someone else's tree, with the wrong parents and husband attached.

I thought I'd do the "right" thing and politely point out the error (I have all the certificates and can match them with the census entries), and offered to supply the proof, if necessary.

The website still displays the wrong data, but they've added my name and email address, as a contributor.

Not happy..............

'Hat.
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Jellis
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Re: How cross would you be, or am I over reacting?
« Reply #86 on: Tuesday 29 September 09 17:00 UTC (UK) »

I'd be hopping mad!   Angry

There's loads of trees on Genes all copied from me.  NOT boasting, it's just in the early days I used to give access to any Tom, Dick or Harry.  Not any more, though.  Lips Sealed
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Re: How cross would you be, or am I over reacting?
« Reply #87 on: Tuesday 29 September 09 19:17 UTC (UK) »

I have had many contacts over the years from people 'connected' one way or another.
Two stick in the mind
One was from a third cousin who contacted via GR and established that we were indeed related. He furnished a now treasured photograph of my great great grandparents and 10 of their 12 children,including my great grandfather.
We of course exchanged information.
The second was from a second cousin who wanted to know every detail of the tree. When I asked her to reciprocate, she flatly refused saying the information was private.
Needless to say I didnt pass on the info
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Re: How cross would you be, or am I over reacting?
« Reply #88 on: Tuesday 29 September 09 22:04 UTC (UK) »

Words fail me, Gensleuth, but I was a bigger fool.  I had a similar experience with a Genes member.  We exchanged email addresses and I sent scans of documents and gave access to my tree etc.  Information flowed from my computer to hers.  Eventually I asked her a few questions.  The silence was deafening.  I asked for access to her tree.  I got the curt message; 'Why, how are we related?'.  I mentioned the information I had sent her but got no reply.  I closed my tree, but sadly, it was too late.  She'd filched all my tree. 

Lesson learned.  Treading softly nowadays!  Roll Eyes
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shan42
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Re: How cross would you be, or am I over reacting?
« Reply #89 on: Tuesday 29 September 09 23:53 UTC (UK) »

Jaysus - there's some tight gits out there!!  Shocked

Maybe I'll just do my tree private now I have a ton of ancestors on it - I have one or two I've got a couple of names off, (and checked them too) and have connected with them to share info which I will gladly do - but that must be really annoying, Gensleuth & Jellis I'd probably see red and send them an email with big sweary words in, lol!! Roger - did you tell them to remove your info? That's outrageous!!

A fair few people on this forum have been so kind & helpful to me (and I know it goes on all the time here), I don't understand how some people can be so tight as to not return the favour Undecided
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