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bostonbunnygirl
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Jessie O'MALLEY nee MOODY burial and marriage look up request
« on: Friday 31 July 09 12:51 UTC (UK) »

Hi

I’m looking for information on my great grandmother Jessie O’Malley nee Moody, born in Attercliffe 1888 (possibly 1881), died 28/06/1914. Last known address Auckland Street, Nottingham which used to be right near General Cemetery Nottingham. I think it’s the Parish of All Souls. Died in Nottingham Workhouse Infirmary, Bagthorpe. I’ve asked Nottingham City Council if they can check their records and let me know where she’s buried, but they charge £10 per cemetery look up!

Also I can’t find any marriage records for her and my great grandfather Patrick O’Malley. Although it’s possible they didn’t marry in Nottinghamshire.

If anyone could help me I would be extremely grateful, it has taken me a long time to get very little information. I just don't seem to b getting anywhere.

Many thanks – Jessica.


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Re: Jessie O'MALLEY nee MOODY burial and marriage look up request
« Reply #1 on: Friday 31 July 09 14:25 UTC (UK) »

Sorry, it should say born 1882 (not 1888), typo!


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Re: Jessie O'MALLEY nee MOODY burial and marriage look up request
« Reply #2 on: Friday 31 July 09 14:30 UTC (UK) »

Hi BBG

SORRY cant help with Burial. And cant find the Marriage.

I found you Tree and can see what you have.
To summarise;

I cant find a marriage to Jessie Moody at all either. Possibly they never married.
Children with Mother MOODY;
BERNARD O'Malley, Dec. 1911, Nottingham, 7b 747

Other possible children, no Mothers name listed, reg. Nottingham;
AUSTIN, March 1905
HUBERT, March 1906
EDWARD, 1907

Patrick married Ada BARNES, June 1916, Basford, 7b 456

Child from this marriage was;
THOMAS O'Malley, Dec. 1918, Basford, 7b 486, Mother Barnes

Death reg; Jessie O'Malley, June 1914, Nottingham 7b 501

QUESTIONS please

Do you have Jessies Death Cert?

Birth Cert of O'Malley child you are descended from and his Marriage Cert?

Marriage Cert of Patrick and Ada Barnes?

All of these are needed to research from. Please provide these details if possible.

Cheers,
Trish


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Re: Jessie O'MALLEY nee MOODY burial and marriage look up request
« Reply #3 on: Friday 31 July 09 14:43 UTC (UK) »

Possible 1881 census for Patrick Wink

1881 Census
RG11/3471/110/8
31 Ince Street, Heaton Norris, Lancashire

Edward O'MALLEY, 36, mar, railway labourer, Mayo IRELAND
Bridget, 29, mar, wife, Mayo
PATRICK, 7, son, Mayo
Austin, 5, son, Mayo
Martin.J. 4, son, Mayo
Mary.A, 3, daug, born Heaton Norris, Lancs

Looks good Wink

as I think Patrick named one of his children Edward ( after Father) and Austin ( after brother)

Also purchasing the birth cert of youngest child Mary would give you maiden name of Bridget.

Ther are 3 possibilities on Freebmd but you would have to specify parents names.

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Re: Jessie O'MALLEY nee MOODY burial and marriage look up request
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 01 August 09 00:03 UTC (UK) »

Hi

Had just written a long message and my laptop restarted and installed updates, grrrrr.

Anyway! Thanks so much!!! Looks v promising Grin

Patrick and Jessie's children were Bernard, Austin, Hubert and Edward. Hubert is my granddad. Patrick and Ada had Thomas and then adopted Arnold Barnes O'Malley. I assume Arnold was Ada's nephew (she wasn't old enough for him to be her biological son).

Patrick's marriage cert to Ada states his father is Edward, and that he was a labourer!

The family you've named in the 1881 census sounds really promising, I cam across similar names within a family in Mayo, but am never sure when to be 100% sure it's the correct family. Also my granddad named his eldest child Patricia Bridget O'Malley. So surely it's the right family?

I will look into Mary's bith cert

When Jessie was 19 I know she was living Droylsden which is only 8 miles from Heaton Norris! It never ever crossed my mind that Patrick's family moved across, I just had it in my head that he moved over by himself. Surely it's right.

Answers to your quests:

My cousin (Edward's daugter) has Jessie's death cert. She died, aged 33, died 28/06/1914, of an incomplete abortion and septicaemia at the Nottingham Workhouse Infirmary, Bagthorpe. Do you need any further information from it.

I also found this info out at Notts Archives:
**Workhouse master's admission and discharge registers, 1856-1920, available on microfiche - data for Jessie's year missing.

**Register of deaths, 1851-1926, available on microfiche - information not available, that year missing. Although they said it would be the same as below.

**Register of deaths in infirmary, 1908-1920, available on microfiche - found Jessie, but there was nothing new on there, no date of birth, no record of where she was buried. It states who buried by and it states 'friends'. Most of the records say friends, but some stated parish. I wondered if parish meant a state funeral, and friends meant family or friends.

**Creed registers, 1910-1942 (Reference: PUO/2/10/1-23), giving name, occupation, religious creed, year of birth, last address, name and address of nearest relative, ward in which kept and dates of admission and discharge - looked under the Os and Ms and she wasn't there. They stopped filling in the book in May, I looked through other letters and those were about the same too, May or beginning of June, I think they must have been too busy for paperwork.

I have the marriage for Ada and Patrick but have recently moved out of my old house and my family tree info is still there. I will collect it at the weekend.

I will ask my mother and also my cousin if she has birth/marriage certs for Hubert or Edward.

Thanks so much for your help!


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Re: Jessie O'MALLEY nee MOODY burial and marriage look up request
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 01 August 09 07:07 UTC (UK) »

1891 Census
RG12/2793/127/11
4 Rowland Street
Heaton Norris, Lancs

Edward Omalley, 47, labourer
Bridget, 39
PATRICK, 17, cotton doffer
Austin, 15, gasser
Martin.J. 13, cotton doffer
Mary.A., 11, scholar
Nora, 8, scholar
Edward, 6, scholar
Agnes, 2
Thomas, 1mth

I typed it up as transcribed Omalley!
All 5 younger children born Lancs

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Re: Jessie O'MALLEY nee MOODY burial and marriage look up request
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 01 August 09 07:47 UTC (UK) »

1901 Census
56 Lloyd St
Stockport,,Lancs
RG13/3286/153/45

Edward O'MALLEY, 57, labourer
Bridget, 49
Austin, 25, yarn spinner
Mary Ann, 21, tailoress
Norah, 18, dressmaker
Edward, 16, plumbers apprentice
Agnes, 12, thread piercer
Thomas, 9, scholar
All unmarried


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Re: Jessie O'MALLEY nee MOODY burial and marriage look up request
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 01 August 09 08:09 UTC (UK) »

I cant find anything on Jessie other than the Census you mention. I tried looking for the marriage of people she was boarding with with hoping it was her sister but no luck. Hannah was not a Moody Angry

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Re: Jessie O'MALLEY nee MOODY burial and marriage look up request
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 01 August 09 08:34 UTC (UK) »

Submitted record on Familysearch Wink

Marriage;

Edward OMALLEY
Bridget DEANE, born abt 1852
Abt 1873, Mayo

How exciting, maybe this is right and someone has been researching in the past. I am descended from a Deane also.

+ Extracted record;

Birth;
Martin.John MALLEY
13 June 1877
Westport, Mayo, Ireland
Parents Edward Malley, Bridget Malley


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Re: Jessie O'MALLEY nee MOODY burial and marriage look up request
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 01 August 09 10:24 UTC (UK) »

Hi

Thank soooooo much for all your help Cheesy

In the 1911 census whih lists Patrick and Jessie in Nottingham, and he was a Cotton Doubling Overlooker, so it's the right trade. Plus another repeated name Thomas!

I still need to order Mary's birth certificate don't I? To make sure Bridget's maiden name is Deane.

Regarding Jessie there are alot of family rumours/talk, I've copied the emails from my mum's cousin :

**apparently there were two maiden aunts (Patrick's sisters, I presume) who lived in Manchester who would help out by having a the children if they were ill, they helped with kitting them out with clothing too. My sister, Jenny, found this out from someone called Eileen Hobson, who was brought up by these two aunts. I tried to trace her death cert because my sister said she only died last year but could find nothing. This same sister was told when she was a child that Jessie Moody was a very beautiful woman. Illegitimate, apparently, so the O'Malley's didn't want Patrick to marry her, hence the elopement.

The maiden Aunts must be Mary Ann and Norah as they are tailoress and dressmaker!! And the Manchester link.

**My sister heard from the woman called Eileen Hobson,who was brought up by Patrick's sisters, that Jessie Moody was Irish too. Born in Ireland, illegitimate daughter of a wealthy landowner. Because of her illegitimacy, the O'Malley's didn't want Patrick to marry her, so they eloped. I don't know where to, but they must, I think, have married in Ireland, because I can't find any trace of their marriage in England.

Eileen Hobson has died, so I can't ask her any information.

Exciting stuff. Thanks so much, I'm so overwhelmed by all this info!

Jessica Grin


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Re: Jessie O'MALLEY nee MOODY burial and marriage look up request
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 01 August 09 10:36 UTC (UK) »

FANTASTIC stuff

All seems to link up. Maybe the birth cert of Agnes might be easier, be back in a minute, will try and find ref.
I'm in Sydney.

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Re: Jessie O'MALLEY nee MOODY burial and marriage look up request
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 01 August 09 10:53 UTC (UK) »

Hi agin,

Best one to go for is this I think, closest match to birth date on Census entries;

Thomas O'Malley
June 1891
Stockport, 8a 33


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Re: Jessie O'MALLEY nee MOODY burial and marriage look up request
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 01 August 09 11:00 UTC (UK) »

Thanks, I'll order it as soon as I can! You've been a great help!! Cheesy


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Re: Jessie O'MALLEY nee MOODY burial and marriage look up request
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 01 August 09 11:07 UTC (UK) »

I am glad I could help

Let me know the outcome please.

Trish


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Re: Jessie O'MALLEY nee MOODY burial and marriage look up request
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 12 August 09 21:28 UTC (UK) »

Hello Trish

The certificate arrived today.

Thomas son of Edward and Bridget O'Malley
Edward - general labourer
Bridget's maiden name is O'Malley!
Have an email from my mum's cousin and she has always said that two O'Malley cousins married in the family, so that must be them.

I also saved various records ages ago and never did anything with them as I wasn't sure if they were right, my mum's cousin also did the same thing.

I have:
1872
Edward MALLY Culleen of Pat MALLY to Bridget MALLY of Martin MALLY Kilsallagh February 7 Dispensation
So, they match too.

Thank you so much for your help. I have so many more avenues to explore now. I was stuck in a rut, just thinking that Patrick moved here and it never crossed my mind that the whole family did.

Thanks v v v much Cheesy


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