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Topic: Joan STEELE - baptism, Chichester area, 1640s please (Read 269 times)
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Stovepipe
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Hi Sussex RootsChatters,
I'm trying to identify the parents of Joan Steele who married John Baker, miller of Funtington, at Westhampnett around March 1665. The marriage is missing from the SMI, but there is the licence which gives the location as extra information and describes Joan as spinster of Chichester.
Basically, I'm hoping to find a baptism for Joan in the Chichester / Westhampnett area probably in the 1640s. The IGI has nothing substantial, merely submitted entries (obviously based on the licence information) that name her husband but not her parents.
I think Joan's parents may have been William Steele and Joan Haler (or Halome) who married at Washington 4 June 1635. So maybe Joan was baptised at Washington.
My reasons for suspecting William and Joan are based on the following catalogue entries for documents held at WSRO.
Post nuptial settlement, after the marriage of John Baker and Joan Steele Add Mss 11,533 20 April 1665
From (a) John Baker of Funtington, miller, to (b) William Steele of Subdeanery, Chichester, miller, and William West of St. Pancras, Chichester, wheelwright
(a) conveys property to (b) to the use of himself and Joan his wife, for their lives or the longest liver of them, then to their heirs, and in default of issue, to the heirs of (a)
Witnesses: John and Richard Peachey
Mortgage for £66 Add Mss 11,534 25 December 1667
From (a) John Baker of Portsmouth, Co. Hants., miller, and Joan, his wife, William Steele of Subdeanery, Chichester, miller, and William West of St. Pancras, Chichester, wheelwright, to (b) William Smith of Funtington, blacksmith
Witnesses: Joan Peachey and Richard Alwyn
The phrase himself and Joan his wife in the first quote I read as referring to William Steele and his wife, but there's a nagging doubt because I know John's wife was named Joan while this is my source for the name of William's. It is what led me to the Washington marriage.
Other documents indicate that William Steele may have been the miller at Halnaker. This place is close to Westhampnett, but also to Boxgrove and other parishes where Joan's baptism may have taken place. (Halnaker seems not to be a parish in its own right - can anyone say which parish covers it?)
One day I will visit WSRO and check the documents, especially the post-nuptial settlement, but in the meantime I'd be really grateful for those with access to the registers of likely parishes to lookup Joan Steele's baptism.
Thanks for any help.
Stovepipe
(PS The IGI has a potential sibling for Joan, viz. Elizabeth Steele baptised to William and "Jone" Steele at Amberley, 8 Feb 1635. This date seems to be before the marriage at Washington, but will be after the event if the year is Old Style.)
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kerryb
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Hi Stovepipe
I had a look on the SFHG database for you, nothing came up. However Washington currently has no baptism records on the database so a possibility.
I had a quick look for a William Steele and two came up 1612 to Thomas and 1617 to William at Westbourne.
Kerry
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kerryb
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Note - Amberley records on same database start from 1781.
Kerry
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Stovepipe
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Hi Kerry,
Many thanks for looking, and the help with the dates (useful to know to refine the search). And for the baptisms of William Steele - were both at Westbourne?
Last night I ordered a couple of CDs from the PRTS that may help - including Westhampnett for the marriage and possibly Joan Steele's baptism. (The other was Funtington - don't expect Joan was baptised there, but it should provide those of her and John Baker's children, and some burials if I'm lucky.)
Regards,
Stovepipe
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kerryb
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Hi Stovepipe
Sorry, yes both baptisms for William Steele were at Westbourne.
Good luck with the search it sounds an interesting one!
That's reminded me to look at PRTS, I believe they have some new Sussex CDs. 
Kerry
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Stovepipe
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Thanks for the clarification, Kerry.
Yes, it does add to the interest when our ancestors' 300-year-old post-nuptial agreements are sitting in the records office waiting to be examined!
Unfortunately the PRTS now charges postage, and one of its more recent transcripts seems not to be of the highest accuracy. (Another thread details how Jan visited WSRO and very kindly cleared up the mistranscription for me.)
Cheers,
Stovepipe
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janan
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Hi Stovepipe
I checked the transcripts for all Chichester parishes and Westhampnett today but no sign of Joan. I will add Boxgrove (which includes Halnaker) Washington and Amberley as other possible parishes for my next visit.
Jan 
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Stovepipe
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Jan,
Many thanks for your generous and copious help. And I now know the parish covering Halnaker, so thanks for that too.
Regards,
Stovepipe
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janan
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No problem. Hopefully I will check those other parishes next month.
Jan
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janan
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Hi Stovepipe
There was a transcript for Washington but no Steele baptisms. I checked Amberley and Boxgrove fiche but couldn't see any Steele baptisms - however much of the time I couldn't see anything at all! Sorry.
Jan
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Stovepipe
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Jan,
Many thanks for looking.
Best wishes,
Stovepipe
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