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gladsgirl
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Baptism Look Up Please - William Rumsey Price, Llangattock
« on: Thursday 06 August 09 14:12 UTC (UK) »

Dear all

I believe William Rumsey Price is the brother of my great grandfather James Price.  The family were originally from Llangattock, Powys but moved to Aberaman, Aberdare where the youngest child Lewis was born in 1848.

I have found a reference in the registers for St John the Baptist Anglican Church at Aberdare to a marriage between William Rumsey Price (father James) and Joan Williams (father John) - both being of full age.  The date of their marriage is 1866.

William Price would have been born around 1839 - 1841 (more likely 1840).  I cant find a birth record searching Ancestry.com or Free BMD.

I'd be grateful for assistance in tracing a baptism - the child's parents were married in 1839 in Llangattock Church so I'm assuming they would have baptised their first born there also.

Thank you very much

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England: Pye, Addison, Stockton, Shaw, Webb, Brain, Winter
Wales:    Price, Edwards, James, Rumsey, Leyshon, Morgans, Rees, Elward
USA:       Price
Australia: Davies, Healey
CaroleW
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Re: Baptism Look Up Please - William Rumsey Price, Llangattock
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 06 August 09 17:44 UTC (UK) »

Hi

What was the occupation of James Price shown on the 1866 marriage cert

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the child's parents were married in 1839 in Llangattock Church so I'm assuming they would have baptised their first born there also.

You haven't given any details of his mothers christian name or maiden name

This is a possible 1841 entry for Llangattock

James Price 30 labourer - not b Breconshire
Ann Price 25 
Thomas Perry/Parry 5 
William Price 9 Months 
HO107 Piece 1366/13 Folio 17 Page 8
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Re: Baptism Look Up Please - William Rumsey Price, Llangattock
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 06 August 09 21:29 UTC (UK) »

Hi Carole

Thanks for your reply.

The parents would be James Price (carpenter) and Martha nee James.  They may have been living at The Legar, Llangattock.  I haven't obtained a copy of William's marriage certificate as I've only just found the reference.

They had four children in total

William born about 1839 -1841
James born April 1842
Ann born about 1845

all in Llangattock

and Lewis born 1847-1848 in Aberdare

Regards

Linda
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England: Pye, Addison, Stockton, Shaw, Webb, Brain, Winter
Wales:    Price, Edwards, James, Rumsey, Leyshon, Morgans, Rees, Elward
USA:       Price
Australia: Davies, Healey
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Re: Baptism Look Up Please - William Rumsey Price, Llangattock
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 06 August 09 22:49 UTC (UK) »

1841 for  Leger Llangattock   

James Price 28  carpenter
Martha   24 
William 1 
HO107 Piece 1366/13  Folio 7 Page 6

Marriages March qtr 1839 

Martha JAMES       Crickhowell  26 345   
James  PRICE       
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Re: Baptism Look Up Please - William Rumsey Price, Llangattock
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 06 August 09 23:20 UTC (UK) »

Did you know that  James Price died pre-1851 and Martha re-married?

Marriages March qtr 1850   

Henry Lewis  Merthyr Tydfil  26 556   
Martha Price   

1851 for Glamorgan

Henry Lewis 34 blast furnace fitter b Llanelly
Martha 34 b Crickhowell
William Price 12  ditto
James 7             ditto
Ann 6                  ditto
Lewis 3   b Glamorgan Aberdare
the following are either boarders or brothers in law - image not clear as to relationship
Lewis James 30 b Llangattock
John James 28         ditto
Davis James 23         ditto
Margaret ?? domestic servant b Aberdare
HO107 Piece 2460 Folio 289 Page 30

Where did you get the info re second christian name Rumsey?  There is no marriage on freebmd for a William Rumsey Price

There is a public members tree on Ancestry that shows Martha James parents as Lewis James and Anne Rumsey but it does not record any middle christian name for William
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Re: Baptism Look Up Please - William Rumsey Price, Llangattock
« Reply #5 on: Friday 07 August 09 07:42 UTC (UK) »

Hi Carole

I must apologise - I should have said that I have quite a lot of information on the family through James Price, William's brother. 

It's William's trail though that has eluded me.

I found the reference to William Rumsey Price marrying Joan Williams in the index book at our library for St John The Baptist church at Aberdare.  The book also contains references to the burial of James Price senior (Martha's husband) and the baptism of the youngest child Lewis.  Their sister Ann's marriage to John Jones is also recorded.

I don't know if this William Rumsey Price is the right person - but as Martha was a Rumsey, the father is stated as James in the church entry and other family members are mentioned at that church I thought it might be a strong possibility.  I thought the best way to prove it was to try and find William's birth date or baptism.

I have come across the following marriage information on free bmd - Merthyr Tydfil district, page 418 vol 11a, March quarter 1866 although it only refers to William R Price and there happens to be a Joan Williams on the same page.

I can't find a William Rumsey Price possible birth unfortunately.

I can trace William on the census information until 1861 (he is about 21) but can't find him after that.

Best wishes

Linda

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England: Pye, Addison, Stockton, Shaw, Webb, Brain, Winter
Wales:    Price, Edwards, James, Rumsey, Leyshon, Morgans, Rees, Elward
USA:       Price
Australia: Davies, Healey
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