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Ceeoh
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Byers. Where was George? COMPLETED Thank you.
« on: Friday 07 August 09 18:40 UTC (UK) »

Trying to find George Byers.
Birth registered Guisborough December 1845 (Free BMD)
1901 census George is a widower age 54 living 63 Belmangate Guisborough with his daughter Jane age 16 and son James age 11.
He gives his place of birth as Guisborough
I found him (presumeably) on the 1871 census index age 23, in Guisborough although his age is a couple of years adrift.
But where was he 1851, 61, 81 and 91?
Cannot find him on any of these indexes or any trace of a marriage for him on free bmd.

Can anyone help, thanks.

Ceeoh
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Re: Byers. Where was George?
« Reply #1 on: Friday 07 August 09 18:53 UTC (UK) »

1891 RG12 Piece 4002 Folio 41 Page 30
65 Belmangate, Guisborough
George Byers     head m 42 Joiner  Guisborough
Catherine  "   wife  m 32             Gilling
John W      "    son        9 Scholar  Guisborough
Jane          "     dau        6                       "
James        "    son        1                       "
Sarah Seaton    visitor  43 General Servant Domestic   Durham Sunderland


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Re: Byers. Where was George?
« Reply #2 on: Friday 07 August 09 18:58 UTC (UK) »

1881 indexed as Bryers  RG11 Piece 4844 Folio  53  Page  36
http://www.rootschat.com/links/06uz/

1871 RG10  Piece 4857  Folio 33 Page 5
The Anchor Inn, Belmangate, Guisborough
William Byers     head m 29 Stpnemason & Innkeeper   Guisborough
Annie Byers    wife   m 23                     Gilling
George Byers brother s 23 House carpenter  Guisborough
Clara Thompson sister-in-law unm 16       Gilling


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Re: Byers. Where was George?
« Reply #3 on: Friday 07 August 09 19:03 UTC (UK) »

1861 census  RG9  Piece  3655  Folio 36  Page  19
Belmangate, Guisborough

BYERS
William      head m 54 Stone Mason (Master)   Skelton
Jane     wife  m 49                             Lofthouse  (Loftus probably)
Thomas      son   s  21     "        "     Asst
William      "     s  19     "        "     App.
Elizabeth  dau      17 Dress Maker
George     son      15 Cartwright & Joiner App
Mary Ann  dau      13 Scholar
Isabella        "        11        "
Sarah        niece   14        "                   Middlesbrough

all Wm's children born Guisborough
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Re: Byers. Where was George?
« Reply #4 on: Friday 07 August 09 19:05 UTC (UK) »

Possible marriage, as sister-in-law was also a Thompson

Dec 1880   Sunderland    10a   846
BYERS    George                Thompson    Catherine


Dec 1868  Guisbro'    9d   863   
Byers    William             Thompson    Annie       
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Re: Byers. Where was George?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 07 August 09 19:10 UTC (UK) »

Will post 1851 & 1841 later if no-one else does, have to go offline for a while

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Re: Byers. Where was George?
« Reply #6 on: Friday 07 August 09 19:12 UTC (UK) »

Many thanks Barbara

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« Reply #7 on: Friday 07 August 09 20:35 UTC (UK) »

1851 census  HO107 Piece 2375 Folio 336 Page 39
Belmangate, Guisborough

Wm Byers     head m 49  Mason Master  Skelton
Jane Byers    wife  m  59                    Loftus
Rt Byers             son      15 Masons App
Thos Byers        "       12 Scholar
Wm Byers        "         9     "
Elizh Byers     dau       7     "
George Byers      son      5
Mary Ann Byers  dau      3
Isabel Byers        "        1
Robt Seaton    nephew  7           Durham Stockton
Sarah Seaton     niece     4            Yorkshire Middlesbro

all other children born Guisborough


1841 census HO107  Piece 1256    Book 18 Folio 4 Page 3 
Margrove Park, Skelton, Yorkshire   
SEATON, Robert 40  Farmer
SEATON, Elizabeth  40 
SEATON, George 30 
BYERS, Robert 4 
WHITEHEAD, William 15 male servant
LENG, Hannah 15  female servant
all born Yorkshire

1841 census HO107 Piece 1255 Book 10 Folio 44 Page 6
Belmangate, Guisborough

BYERS William 30 Stone Mason
all born Yorkshire

not sure yet where Jane was in 1841 - or young Thomas, I'm wondering if they've been missed off the census, as William was on his own at the bottom of a page

IGI has marriage
William BYERS married Jane SEATON   2 Jun 1834 Skelton In Cleveland, Yorkshire


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Re: Byers. Where was George?
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 08 August 09 09:10 UTC (UK) »

Thank you Barbara, your help - as always - much appreciated.  Will digest all you have sent.

Regards
Margaret
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Re: Byers. Where was George?
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 08 August 09 22:06 UTC (UK) »

Hi Barbara
1841 census, I think Jane Byers age 30 was in Whitby with son Thomas age 2.  I wonder why?  I cannot make out what is written in the trade or profession column. 

I think her age (59) is incorrect in 1851, I found a birth, IGI Jane Seaton christened 24 November 1810, Loftus, which fits.  She would have been 39, 1851.

Also IGI found a Robert Byers Seaton born 1835 Guisborough - this could be the Robert Byers age 4 with Robert Seaton in Margrove Park Skelton 1841 census.

Margaret
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Re: Byers. Where was George?
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 08 August 09 23:39 UTC (UK) »

Hi Margaret,

I didn't realise you had access to the census, thought you were just looking at the index which is why I gave full details for the other census!

They're in Hinderwell.  Jane's occupation says Ind - meaning independent, of independent means
Maybe the Huttons were related and they were on holiday or just visiting.
IGI has a marriage for Richard Hutton to Patience Smales so no obvious link

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Re: Byers. Where was George?
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 09 August 09 12:15 UTC (UK) »

Hi Barbara

Normally I do only have access to the census index, however, while filing some papers I came across an old voucher for 1901censusonline.   Wasn't sure if it had expired - or even where I got it, so I tried it and it worked!  We moved house two years ago and many things are only now coming to light!!

When checking the index I usually try  findmy past  and double check on  1901online  but I find the 1901online  is not at all reliable.  More often I find who I am looking for on fmp whereas 1901online index so often tells me "not found".

So,  many thanks for all the data you have provided me with - I really didn't realise I had this voucher - it must be from when 1901 first came out and there were so many problems I gave it up as a bad job.

Jane Byers - many thanks, the image I saw didn't say where they were.  I found Jane and Thomas on the fmp index which said Whitby - then armed with that info went to 1901online.

I seem to recall seeing Hinderwell mentioned in this research somewhere will have another look at it.

Thank you again for all you help

Regards
Margaret
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Re: Byers. Where was George?
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 30 August 09 14:36 UTC (UK) »

Hi Margaret,

Sorry for late reply, have been away for three weeks.  Glad the information was helpful, if you need any further help just ask

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Re: Byers. Where was George?
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 30 August 09 15:06 UTC (UK) »

Many thanks Barbara.  I may be without a computer for a day or two, just had new motherboard and power point - now hard drive is almost full!!  Technician had a problem installing new one so it needs to go to the "shop" tomorrow.

Will certainly ask should I need further assistance with my research.  Many thanks for the offer.

Regards
Margaret
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