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Topic: Percy & Doris Smith from Swindon, England (Read 723 times)
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toby webb
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I have no experience with genealogy in NZ so seeking some help. A Percy & Doris Smith left UK sometime after 1926 ( I am extra vague as there are 2 possible marriages which add to my confusion )I know where they were living in Aukland but not when although sometime between c.1930 & 1975. What avenues of research are open to me to find out more about them?
Thanks, Toby Webb.
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Lucy2
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Hi Toby
As a starting point, you could search the NZ online Death index for your couple.
http://bdmhistoricalrecords.identityservices.govt.nz/
Depending on just what it is you want to find out about them, then obtaining a death record (for either, or both), might assist you further. (Note: A "printout" version of the record, offers maximum information).
You may also find the Resources section of this board, helpful.
Lu
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althea
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Hi Tony
Sadly many options, any chance of a middle name for either to narrow it down
Bye
Althea
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Pascoe, Williams, Rowe, Matthews, Eddy: St Just-in-Penwith, St Keverne, Cornwall. Varcoe, Collicoat, Chapman: Roche area,Cornwall Cornes & Graham: Ireland/Shropshire, Barker, Palin: Shropshire McDougall, Morren: Ireland, Earl, Redgen, Steward: Suffolk Info: Thames, New Zealand Genealogy Resources: http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~althea/index.htmlNZSG Mem#18951 CFHS Mem#13723 Info: Breage, Germoe & Godolphin Cornwall : http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~althea/index.html |
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Lucy2
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Hi again Toby
True ... there are many options. 
* Have you got their "years of birth" ?
* An occupation for Percy SMITH ?
There are a good number of probate records on the Archives NZ website ... perhaps your Percy SMITH features amongst those ?
http://www.archives.govt.nz/
* What is the significance of year 1975 which you mention ?
* What was the street name and suburb in Auckland ?
Lu
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Lucy2
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Great work Alan !
DEATH - NZ BDM
1966 - SMITH - Percival Lancelot Patterson - aged 72 years
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Lucy2
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Cemetery record - Purewa Cemetery, Auckland
SMITH - Percival Lancelot Patterson
http://www.purewa.co.nz/
[A "possible Doris" also at same site - 76 years / died 1979 ]
It appears that there is a "Book of Remembrance" for this Mr SMITH.
You may also be able to obtain further information from the funeral directors listed ? (It's possible that firm has a website - or email address. Try a "google" search - "name of firm" OR "Funeral Directors Assn of NZ").
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toby webb
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A few extra facts.
Percival Lancelot Patterson Smith was born in Swindon, Wiltshire, England sometime late 1893 /early 1894 and served an apprenticeship in the Great Western Railway.
He lived at 77, Hillcrest Avenue, Aukland N14.
He married in Barton upon Irwell district which contains part of Manchester so the pre voyage Flixton address makes sense.
I now need to digest all the rest of the amazing information that you all have given me. Thank you so much.
Toby.
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toby webb
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The significance of "1975" is that my mother died in that year and therefore the addresses in her book had to be prior to 1975.
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toby webb
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Do you have censuses in NZ like we have every 10 years in the UK and if so can one access them easily?
Thanks. Toby.
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althea
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If you can't find family via the above burial links
The New Zealand Herlad will probably have death notices
If no one is able to look these up the North Shore Branch of NZSG have a mail service for this,
Pm me if no one is able and I could write from here which is probably quicker
Bye
Althea
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Pascoe, Williams, Rowe, Matthews, Eddy: St Just-in-Penwith, St Keverne, Cornwall. Varcoe, Collicoat, Chapman: Roche area,Cornwall Cornes & Graham: Ireland/Shropshire, Barker, Palin: Shropshire McDougall, Morren: Ireland, Earl, Redgen, Steward: Suffolk Info: Thames, New Zealand Genealogy Resources: http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~althea/index.htmlNZSG Mem#18951 CFHS Mem#13723 Info: Breage, Germoe & Godolphin Cornwall : http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~althea/index.html |
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toby webb
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Thank you for the continuing help. Without census returns, how does one investigate families in NZ?
Toby.
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Eyesee
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You may or may not already have this.
FreeBMD has his birth registered Mar qtr 1894, Highworth, so could have been born late 1893 or early 1894.
1901 census has him aged 7, with grandparents Henry and Emma SMITH at 22 Gordon Road, Swindon. Henry was an undertaker.
From NZ Records
Purewa B/Rs
SMITH, Doris
Date of burial 15 May 1979
Age 76
Address 704 Manukau Road, Epsom, Auckland
Birthplace England
Occupation Widow
Undertaker Weir
NoK Mr M SMITH, son
PLP SMITH mentioned in next record but no details given
Purewa Cremations
SMITH Percival Lancelot Patterson
Date cremated 6 Sep 1966
Last Residence 77 Hillcrest Rd, Northcote, Auckland
Funeral Director H Norris
Ashes were scattered in Garden of Rememberance, plaque on plot 16/2/81.
Ian C
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