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Devonblues Scavenger Hunt...Everyone Welcome To Join In.
« on: Tuesday 11 August 09 10:30 BST (UK) »


Welcome to this weeks Scavenger Hunt and It's Devonblue's turn.......I'm sure you'll be able to help with this one.

Good Luck and Good Hunting.

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Margaret THOMAS married Stephen WRIGHT at Handsworth Parish Church, Staffs on 13 Jan 1859. He was the son of Stephen WRIGHT and Mary JONES and was born in Diglis St Worcester in 1829 and was variously described as a Coach Smith, Blacksmith, Axle tree forger and Smith. By the time of their marriage the couple had 6 living children and were on the 1851 census with the first two in Barn St in Birmingham (HO 107/2059/349/40).

Margaret THOMAS was born about 1827 and the marriage certificate says she was the daughter of Thomas THOMAS, a hatter.  The 1851 census states that she was born in Newport Salop, the 1861 says Salop, Shrewsbury and   the 1871, 1881 and 1891 all say Shrewsbury.  She died in Smethwick in 1897. Stephen WRIGHT died 2 years later in Aston at his daughter’s house.

My cousin and I who research this family together have never been able to find any trace of Margaret THOMAS prior to 1851. My cousin did a lot of the work ‘pre PC’ and visited records offices and churches etc over half of Shropshire it seemed but all to no avail. The IGI doesn’t seem to be much help either.

In 1851 also in Barn St Birmingham  (HO 107/2054/344/31) is another household headed by a Margaret THOMAS aged 60, a laundress born in Chirbury, Salop and we wonder if this is our Margaret’s mother.

Another mystery in this family is that Elizabeth WRIGHT the couple’s third daughter was born in Middlesex, London in 1852 according to all the censuses. We have never found the correct birth reference for her and also wonder why she was born there; all the other 8 children are born in either Birmingham or Smethwick.

The last query is that Margaret and Stephen’s son Stephen Ernest James WRIGHT b 1854 in Birmingham also does a disappearing act in 1881 and has been untraceable on the census. A search of his previous known address on the census reveals the house is empty as is the house at their next known address. Stephen E J WRIGHT married Keziah CLEMO on 25 February 1877 at St George's Church, Birmingham. Keziah CLEMO was illegitimate and was born in Birmingham in 1856. Stephen EJ Wright was an Axle tree Forger. Their first child, Keziah WRIGHT was born in 1880 so should be on the 1881 census too. Were they just missed or are they lurking under some other name?

Just to confirm, we do have ALL the census refs except for Margaret THOMAS in 1841 and for Stephen E J and Keziah WRIGHT and family in 1881.

Onley/Only/Olney In Islington.<br />Wallwork In Bolton and Walkden<br />Lamb In Bolton and Ireland<br />Grundy In Bolton<br />Blackledge In Bolton<br />Osbaldeston  ?? ??<br />Barnett in Islington<br />Binyon in Islington
Kitchen in Bolton
Parker in Bolton

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« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 11 August 09 10:44 BST (UK) »
Just checking in.

I will be away from the pc from tonight until tomorrow night but will be here as often as I can around those times.

Thank you.
Midlands:Bayliss, Clemo, Eburn, Evans, Finney, Mayo, Morris, Rhead, Shutt, Upton, Waterhouse, Woodward, Wright, Woolley, Wyatt, 
Devon: Gillard, Jenkins, Manfield, Morrish, Palk, Salter, Shire, Scorse, Summers, Wood,
Dorset:  Fudge, Roberts,Trowbridge,
Montgomeryshire: Evans
Norfolk: Bond, Everard, Riches,
Somerset:Clothier, Hockey, Jenkins, Shire
Ireland:Mihill, Woodward, Zumach
Scotland:Lewis
Travellers:Cooper, Davies, Hughes, Manley, Orchard, Penfold, Roberts, Small, Wells/Wills

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« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 11 August 09 10:46 BST (UK) »
  ;D Good Morning.. Will print off and be back later...  8)
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Berks Bucks Oxon= Norris Coxhead Turner Cox Weston Baston Simpson
Kent= Nicholls Mepstead Watts   Mile End=Craze Wood Bennett
Cork=Howe   NZ=Coxhead   Canada=Fenn Cox Turner

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« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 11 August 09 11:07 BST (UK) »
 ;D  Hmmmmmm


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« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 11 August 09 11:11 BST (UK) »
In 1851 also in Barn St Birmingham  (HO 107/2054/344/31) is another household headed by a Margaret THOMAS aged 60, a laundress born in Chirbury, Salop and we wonder if this is our Margaret’s mother.

  :D Is it possible to post up the census info's please..  ;)

Has this lady been followed up..  :P
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Berks Bucks Oxon= Norris Coxhead Turner Cox Weston Baston Simpson
Kent= Nicholls Mepstead Watts   Mile End=Craze Wood Bennett
Cork=Howe   NZ=Coxhead   Canada=Fenn Cox Turner

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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 11 August 09 11:26 BST (UK) »
While looking for Keziah born 1880 I happened upon this interesting family in Derbyshire 1881

RG11/3402 Pg20

Interesting because the head  John Wright is a wheelwright born Shrewsbury , his wife Emily is born Middlesex c1857 and all the little Wrights bar one are born Birmingham. Living with them is a niece Lizzie ( maybe Kizzie   ??? :-\ ) born Birmingham 1880. Oh and one of the sons is a Coach Body maker

Jan ;)
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge

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« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 11 August 09 11:29 BST (UK) »
1851, 50 Barn St, (HO 107/2054/344/31)

Margaret Thomas Head Widow 60 Laundress Salop Clibury ***
William Bolt Lodger U 19 Gun Finisher Warks B'ham
Ann Thomas Lodger U 16 Warks B'ham
Isabella Smith Lodger U 21 Servant Derbys NK ***
James Gunliffer Lodger u 38 Pearl Button Maker Warks B'ham

*** Has a tick mark  in blind deaf dumb column

We couldn't find Margaret for certain before this.

NB I am having probs getting on Rootschat this am. Tried 2 different browsers. I presume it's traffic volume!!
Midlands:Bayliss, Clemo, Eburn, Evans, Finney, Mayo, Morris, Rhead, Shutt, Upton, Waterhouse, Woodward, Wright, Woolley, Wyatt, 
Devon: Gillard, Jenkins, Manfield, Morrish, Palk, Salter, Shire, Scorse, Summers, Wood,
Dorset:  Fudge, Roberts,Trowbridge,
Montgomeryshire: Evans
Norfolk: Bond, Everard, Riches,
Somerset:Clothier, Hockey, Jenkins, Shire
Ireland:Mihill, Woodward, Zumach
Scotland:Lewis
Travellers:Cooper, Davies, Hughes, Manley, Orchard, Penfold, Roberts, Small, Wells/Wills

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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 11 August 09 11:32 BST (UK) »
I think the tick mark is a later mark to highlight those born out of county.

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« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 11 August 09 11:32 BST (UK) »
While looking for Keziah born 1880 I happened upon this interesting family in Derbyshire 1881

RG11/3402 Pg20

Interesting because the head  John Wright is a wheelwright born Shrewsbury , his wife Emily is born Middlesex c1857 and all the little Wrights bar one are born Birmingham. Living with them is a niece Lizzie ( maybe Kizzie   ??? :-\ ) born Birmingham 1880. Oh and one of the sons is a Coach Body maker

Jan ;)

Yes we've seen that. Not sure it is relevant though as the Wright family are from Worcester.  Interesting the wife is from Middlesex .....
Midlands:Bayliss, Clemo, Eburn, Evans, Finney, Mayo, Morris, Rhead, Shutt, Upton, Waterhouse, Woodward, Wright, Woolley, Wyatt, 
Devon: Gillard, Jenkins, Manfield, Morrish, Palk, Salter, Shire, Scorse, Summers, Wood,
Dorset:  Fudge, Roberts,Trowbridge,
Montgomeryshire: Evans
Norfolk: Bond, Everard, Riches,
Somerset:Clothier, Hockey, Jenkins, Shire
Ireland:Mihill, Woodward, Zumach
Scotland:Lewis
Travellers:Cooper, Davies, Hughes, Manley, Orchard, Penfold, Roberts, Small, Wells/Wills